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New SERP's....Good or Bad? Feedback always welcomed. :>~
By checking out the cache's I can see that where we do better on is the one with the more updated cache so I am hopeful that is where it will end up.
I am fed up with Google hopefully Y moves to the top and we all say goodbye to Google.
Does anyone know about Yahoo and if there is a possibility of what I see on yahoo Australia right now eventually showing on regular yahoo?
I have just never paid any attenion before to know if yahoo shows updates quicker there or if we are just going to rank better on yahoo Australia.
Anyone know why that would be?
- all "view as xml" and "add to myYahoo" links have been removed from the listings.
- some sites have dropped or removed totally from the serps.
- many sites are still bouncing in an out of the top 20
- some site which have long been "out" of the serps have suddenly floated back to the top 10.
No, as far as i know, (based on Y! official Search Blog) there's no update on may 11. The update started early April and hasn't ended! Yahoo!'s just being Yahoo - going round in circles and doing the "hokey pokey".
You post a set of events that are very similar to what I am experiencing. The site has been losing 2 to 4 pages a day from the index. In a site: search the homepage has sunk to the bottom.
Have you observed or heard of people going through this and pages coming back after disappearing slowly?
There are 2 different DBs
The pure SERPS are on Alltheweb and Altavista. Y! then takes these and blends a subdomain penalty and promotes YSM! search partner sites to produce the Y! SERPS.
Been happening for 5 months, IMHO
Nothing to do with Alltheweb's live search which is Y! SERPS with a few bells and whistles!
Maybe it has always been that way, I never paid much attention before. Site has been around for seven plus years, white hat, no sub domains.
More like the hokey pokey cinco de mayo marcarena dance all put in one.. LOL
The pure SERPS are on Alltheweb and Altavista. Y! then takes these and blends a subdomain penalty and promotes YSM! search partner sites to produce the Y! SERPS.
Are you saying that Y takes sites with a subdomain penalty to compete with the top sites.
I wondered if he was saying that sites may do well on the international yahoos, alta vista, and alltheweb but not as well on regular yahoo and because that is where they put in subdomain penalties.
But we have no subdomains and regular yahoo results are almost exactly the same as alltheweb and altavista. We just see some higher rankings for keywords on the international ones.
Not that it is a huge change on the international but our site may go from number 5 or 6 to number 1 or 2, or from page two to page one. But they would be big enough changes to make a difference in traffic.
i do notice that the page three description always refects a cache that's about 5 to 10 days old.
The pure SERPS are on Alltheweb and Altavista. Y! then takes these and blends a subdomain penalty and promotes YSM! search partner sites to produce the Y! SERPS.
Been happening for 5 months, IMHO ]
wordy...
care to elaborate on how you got to know this please?
does this mean that we should target our efforts at alltheweb and altavista and it will be reflected in Y!?
This is not really an observation about International vs. Regional Yahoos!
andrewshim,
Using keyword tracking software, I often see visitors arriving from page 1 of Yahoo! SERPS, however when using reverse look up, the page is not there. If I do the same search on AV or ATW, the page is always on page 1.
It looks like Yahoo! takes the AV/ATW SERPS and applies additional filters such as a subdomain penalty (if you use subdomains) or a boost if in the Y! Directory. Occasionally the AV/ATW SERPS appear on Y!
This is not really an observation about International vs. Regional Yahoos!
andrewshim,
Using keyword tracking software, I often see visitors arriving from page 1 of Yahoo! SERPS, however when using reverse look up, the page is not there. If I do the same search on AV or ATW, the page is always on page 1.
It looks like Yahoo! takes the AV/ATW SERPS and applies additional filters such as a subdomain penalty (if you use subdomains) or a boost if in the Y! Directory. Occasionally the AV/ATW SERPS appear on Y!
However, if the cycle goes according to plan, what i'll see in the next few days is that my site will suddenly jump back to page #1 at a higher place... what i mean is :
First time it happened, i was #23, then came back to #10;
Second time i was #22, then came back at #6;
Third time from #21 back to #5;
We'll see what happens next... go figger!
Can anyone throw some light into my dark Yahoo! Yo-yo ride?
I'm wondering if you check the results over and over, if the engine shows diff results becuase of same IP in a short time refreshing results?
that could explain why i just dropped ten places again after my last comment at
[webmasterworld.com...]
hmmmmm.... conspiracy theory
I can only assume they will roll them back - these results cant be for real.
Rich
the latest post confirmed that G! does have people visiting this forum (we all know they do daily) to gauge our feedback on their search issues. from the examples he stated in his latest post, i imagine they do check out the profile and investigate to confirm if there IS a problem with their algos.
now i gotta set things clear : i don't believe Y! would check out this forum to look for sites in our profile.
(Yahoo! is too good to do that. Yahoo! is good. Yahoo! is the best search engine there is. Yahoo! has reeeeeeallly nice folks working there. The guy / gal who visits this forum is reeeeallly sweet!)
There... all said and done.... just in case ; )
some forums have mentioned that Y! has been spidering feverishly lately to add to their index and as they do, they've been lifting a number of filters (i hope it's just to test), which would explain why sites are bouncing all over the place. also would explain why some sites we have not seen for some time have suddenly floated back to the top again.
now... nobody's answered these 2 questions :
how can a site with absolutely NO relevance in a category with NO keyword (not even one) rank at #4?
how can a site that has not been updated for months still rank at #1 with absolutely NO change or bouncing around while ALL other sites are yo-yoing?
go figger.
But looks like on the lappie the results are cleaner, less duplication of domains, less subdomain crap, etc.
About time they shook the tree.
If you look at the Yahoo update history - changes do tend to happen around the 18th-25th of the month. Normally takes a few days to settle down.....
(Results seem to be a bit poor at the moment as Rich say - hopefully things will improve again when settled down - there is normally a DC, or a set of results, which has lots of pages missing - I cant seem to access it at the moment - but I wonder if it fits in with what marketingmagic has seen)
