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mack

10:20 pm on Jun 16, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Do yahoo activly bar sites from being able to be submitted?

Hunter

1:54 am on Jun 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

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mack,

Are you having trouble submitting? Just tell us what's happening and we can advise.

mack

3:11 pm on Jun 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

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hi there.
i am having problrms getting listed on yahoo.
my site is a general web directory. I have been submitting to the category...Computers_and_Internet / Internet / World_Wide_Web / Searching_the_Web / Search_Engines_and_Directories/

aproximatly every 2 months for about 18 months and still have not been encluded.
I have emailed support and just receive a spec email from an autoresponder giving general information and reasons why sites may not get listed. I feel that the category that i im suggesting to is the most relevante. My site in in my profile you can check it out and tell me if you think inother category listing would be more suitable. Also do you think i should risk the business express submission or shoul di just stick with the free submission?

thanks in advance

hutcheson

5:41 pm on Jun 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

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My guess is that the Yahoo reviewer is looking for content, and not finding any. Browsing around, I got the strong impression that there were very few categories, yet far more categories than actual listings.

Listings = content. Hardly any listings...the Yahoo reviewer may feel that searchers are better served by not being sidetracked to an empty shell.

Even user-contributed content -- ESPECIALLY user-contributed content -- has to be bootstrapped. You left out the shoelaces.

mack

1:02 am on Jun 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

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at the point when you visit my site my links database had been erased... it is now back on-line.

firstmark

1:19 am on Jun 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Mack you don't have enough listings to warrant a listing in any human edited directory at this time I feel.
Also I would suggest losing the search feature all together if you don't have some back up data source when you have no relevant data to show.

Focus on specific categories or topics at first rather than allow a general search the web feature.

hutcheson

6:04 pm on Jun 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I've looked again, and now there are a few more listings than categories. Now, I'm no Yahoo reviewer, but I have worked on the Open Directory Project for a couple of years, and watched categories grow from "too-small-to-be-useless" to "larger-than-Yahoo", and I think I have a feel for the various stages.

And, without a doubt, this directory is still too small to be useless. A general directory would need 5,000 or more sites to be useless, even more to be useful enough to attract surfers and submitters. (But in repeating this I feel as if I'm saying, "That sow's ear isn't big enough for a whole silk parachute. Why don't you build a silk purse instead?")

One possible solution is a focus (but this may be saying simply "concentrate on macrame silk purses.)

Another problem is that the website descriptions are apparently taken directly from the website or the submission form without adequate reviewing. This is the best possible way to get very poor descriptions, which pushes a site far beyond useless to an "active hindrance".

Yet another is that your spelling and orthography are idiosyncratic. Some people will notice this as a reflection of the professional competance of your editors; others will just be puzzled when they can't find "Humanities" or "Literature." This is a way of moving beyond "active hindrance" into "positive annoyance" territory." ("Forget that sow's ear! Why don't you start collecting mulberry leaves and cocoons?")

A final issue which the reviewer will consider is how much "unique content" the site has: compared to Yahoo itself, Looksmart, the Open Directory (and all its mirrors, etc. Even if you can impose traditional spelling and punctuation rules on your editors, and teach them to write useful site descriptions (a daunting task, I can assure you, speaking from experience), What can you do better than the others, and how are you going to do it? "Does the world need another silk purse manufacturer?" If the answer is "not much" and "I dunno", then the Yahoo reviewer is not likely to be impressed.

john316

4:47 am on Jun 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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You might want try making it look even more like yahoo! I'm sure the editors appreciate the originality.