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I've been in the #1 spot for a competative phrase for many months, disappeared, not I'm back, but the subpage that had been #1 has been replaced by the index page now at #4. Strange.
serps look like an improvement at first glance.
nice press release
It is important to have a dialog with publishers who rely on our product to send them visitors and that these content providers provide us with valuable feedback on our search products.
taken from the link provided by Imaster
ahem...paying attention google ;o)
I think this marks the first time ever that an update has been announced. Another example of how Yahoo is trying to communicate with SEO's despite the obvious reasons not to.
I vote we name the yahoo update: Update Tim
A very polite announcement, in my opinion, representative of Y's increasing willingness to communicate with webmasters and SEO's. Nice job guys.
[edited by: stuntdubl at 7:46 pm (utc) on April 1, 2005]
I also ranked #1-#4 for all of my keywords before for those pages that were dropped, but now since those pages are dropped, we can't rank for those keywords since those are the pages we targeted.
Anyone think they will keep adding more pages to the index? Slurp is still visiting.
Seems to me that Yahoo almost started "fresh" with this update, giving new sites a chance to compete with established ones.
My traffic from Yahoo is up nearly 5 fold today (from around 30 to 150 uniques). I don't spam blogs, just a site targeting 13 phrases (I don't believe in bad luck) with over 40 pages of content dedicated to each phrase (roughly 600 words per page).
Right now I am ranking well for 4 of those 13 phrases. The site is totally white hat. Personally, I like the results.
I also found something interesting inside HTML at Yahoo Directory for Canada.
here how HTML looks like in general on 4 levels deep in to it
<li><img width=15 height=9 alt="Canada" src=http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/ca/features/ca_flag.gif>
<a href="http://www.weidgets.tld">link text</a></a>
Wonder if that is proper HTML to link to another site?
Not sure if they will stay. Hopefully those of you that were helped in the update will keep your positions (unless you are one of the guys cloaking the pages in a few of these industries). Cloaked pages can squeak by in a variety of industries, but I don't imagine they will allow them to continue ranking for some of these competitive keywords.
Thanks for the open communication Tim. That is great to see coming from a Search Engine!
Look at the first 800 or so listings. I got tired of looking after that and didn't look any further.
[edited by: martinibuster at 11:06 pm (utc) on April 1, 2005]
[edit reason] Please, no specifics. Thanks for understanding. [/edit]
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On our major KW (2 words, 52 million results in Y!) there's a site fluctuating between positions 2 and 3 that has nothing to do with the keyword. Ok, almost nothing, it mentions both words on the page.
Also, fluctuating with it at #2 and 3 somewhat connected in theme site, much closer to the main KW but of a lower quality than many sites below, and that has traditionally been not higher that page 2-3 in G or MSN.
For other sites: for KW similar to "craft widgets" a site "craftwidgets.com" not even in top 50, so there's maybe some weight to domain, but other factors can easily outweight it. Also, SERPs are filled with widget makers and affiliates, but nothing about "craft" or how you can "craft great widgets" or do your own "widgety craft" in top 30 (craft is not a real word here).
Also, one affiliate site owns positions 1 and 4 in SERPs - the guy must be making a killing.
Still no traffic from Y
Take a look at the phrase: free background check ... Look at the first 800 or so listings. I got tired of looking after that and didn't look any further.
Haha. Yeah, I see crap like that on other keywords too. Bad changes, hopefully it is still tweaking.
The bad news, if an area is aggressively subdomain and/or blog spammed, the results are terrible. For one term, the first three results are
with all three being duplicates (triplicates).
In contrast, in areas no heavily spammed, the results look good.
[edited by: steveb at 11:32 pm (utc) on April 1, 2005]
A superb improvement. Less spam, less doorway pages, less keyword stuffed cr@p in the SERPS. Its great to see good quality sites featuring in the index at long last.
For the sector i watch its a drastic improvement, i can now use the results for once - this is a superb update.
It looks to me that some real poor quality sites that have sat in top positions in Yahoo due to dodgy SEO methods have at last been cleared from the index.
Quality, deep rich content sites are moving forwards - a refreshing change.