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This level of participation in a webmaster forum from a public search company is truly unprecedented, and is something we definitely would like to continue. However, the shear volume of questions and responses we’ve received has created some threads that have become quite difficult to follow.
So, in order to try and make things a bit easier to follow, I think now would be a good time to move to a Q & A similar to the format that we’ve used in the past in the Google forum.
Here’s how it will work:
Questions will be posted in this thread. We will let this thread run for the next few days. Once we have a solid list of quality questions, this thread will be locked. If/when someone from Yahoo Search decides to respond to a question from this thread, we will split off that particular Q&A into its own thread. Any follow-up questions or discussions will take place in the new thread. Doing this will help us keep everything on-topic.
With that in mind, here are some ground rules:
1. Keep the questions focused on Yahoo Search’s products and services. (No asking Tim what his favorite color is)
2. Keep the questions short and sweet. (You will have the opportunity to get long-winded in any follow-up discussions).
3. No specific site information. (We are not the Yahoo help desk or spam police)
4. Keep the tone positive and professional. (All rants will be nuked)
5. Read the other questions before you post yours. (I hate spending time deleting duplicates).
And finally, please keep in mind that just because you ask, doesn’t mean you will get an answer. There are obviously many questions that Yahoo can’t/won’t answer. And we (Mods/Admins) have no input or control regarding which questions, if any, they choose to answer.
What is the plan for fixing this 301 redirect problem?
It has come to my attention that one of the sites I work with was banned because they had a affiliate link to an adult dvd program which while searching though that program they found inappropate keywords even tho the keywords didnt reflect the actual content on the dvd.. so Yahoo seemed to have banend us cause of this situation.. this dvd company is one of the biggest in the US and its hard to belive yahoo would do something like this..
also now that we are banned we are unsure if there is an appeal process.. from what we gather there is nothing in place right now.
b) How can we know *why* a website has been refused for the program? (I understand that they don't send emails, they just decline your URL in the interface and that's it.)
c) Once we know "why" - Can we re-submit the same URL?
Do we have to pay again for the review?
- I would just like to know for some certainty that when my grace period runs out that my sites will still remain in the Yahoo index if either they have been crawled naturally by Yahoo! Slurp or by me using the free add URL link.
- What happens if you overspend your PPC budget? does the site get dropped and re-added when you add more money?
- How long does it actually take for Site Match sites to be added? 72 hours or 4 business days?
- If Yahoo is a "new" engine, then why are you keeping the INK PFI penalties, but not keeping any of the INK PFI paid pages?
- I'm opposed to manual reviews for people who paid for inclusion. To much spam in Yahoo to justify putting questionably penalized PFI customers through any more hoops. Don't you have any lists of whose penalized already?
- When does Y expect any of this to begin showing free crwaled sites?
- If I am in yahoo directory, will my site be “banned” from the search index?
- Can i pay for the directory to get listed in the yahoo index to avoid the PPC costs?
We also listed two URL's with Ink.
Post Ink conversion, we have 1,230 pages indexed with Yahoo, presumably through some combination of the above submittals.
What we can expect to happen after 4/15?
If a web site excluded from Inktomi now Yahoo!Search registers with Site Match, will the web site be required to register each year thereafter in order to be included in Yahoo!Search?
If the reason for a web site's registration with Site Match is because it was dropped by Inktomi would it be 'more fair' to charge a "site review fee" instead of charging for each page plus per click? There are several penalities here: The first penalty was being dropped by Inktomi, the second penalty is having to pay for each page to be indexed in Yahoo!Search. And if the site owner has to pay for each year after the first year, then it's a lifetime penalty.
If a site is spidered/indexed in 'free inclusion' --are all pages indexed or only the home page?
Lastly, in Site Match why do Adult sites only pay 15 cents per click?
Could you please go into some detail on the difference between the vanishing homepage penalty and a regular editorial ban? What triggers each one etc.?
From my research, I have found evidence that the vanishing homepage ban is an automated penalty that hits only PFI pages and an editorial ban is a penalty that will drop the entire site from the index. Both are "eternal" bans. Is this accurate? If so, why are PFI pages treated differently than organic results if, in therory, they are supposed to be treated the same? Positiontech swore to me many times that PFI pages were treated the exact same... and yet... only PFI pages are hit with the vanishing homepage curse... in fact, my site's homepage disappeared immediately after signing up for PFI and is still gone.
How can you justify dropping all Inktomi PFI pages from the Yahoo index, while still keeping all of the Inktomi penalties from before? That sounds a little unfair especially given the fact that the Inktomi penalty system was sketchy at best (as I obviously know from personal experience).
(2) Assuming we adjust our pages for better ranking, how can we tell if we step over the line, so we don't keep making the same mistake and get all our pages banned, at great expense?
(3) Could our account show a green stamp (passes review), yellow stamp (at risk), red stamp (banned) or no stamp (not reviewed)for each page, to guide us through the adjusment phase without costly mistakes?
When will yahoo.com in the US be permanently switching to Inktomi/new Yahoo Search results?
I know they've been ramping it up gradually and switching back/forth between google and ink, so to what extent have they been using Inktomi to this point?
I ask because I've had a site I've recently redesigned start doing well in yahoo/ink results, but that's based on the old design/layout. The redesign is more targeted at Google, but if I'm going to be doing well in the new yahoo, I may be better off with the old design.
Yahoo Slurp has crawled the new site, but I'm thinking I'll get a chance to see if its worth sticking with the previous design (if/when yahoo.com goes back to Ink results), since Ink was never very quick to pick up changes.
Is Yahoo working on improving it directory support? If yes, when will we see the improved service and will the improved service have phone support?
I know that listing is not a guarantee of placement for any searches, and I am glad that the site was accepted. But, where does it show up?!