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Brett_Tabke

12:03 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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According to some reports [news.com.com] yahoo is now ack'ing [webmasterworld.com] that the change to their "internally powered results" is offical. eg: goodbye Google.

EquityMind

12:06 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)



Congrats to Yahoo on the new switch. I love a good shake up.

EquityMind

patoruzu

12:11 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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At the moment, SERPs on yahoo.com are different from those of some regional Yahoos, for example, Spain, Mexico or Argentina. The last ones are still from Google.

viggen

12:27 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Germany has still powered by Google results.

[edited by: viggen at 12:28 pm (utc) on Feb. 18, 2004]

Liane

12:27 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can't wait to see what happens now that we finally have an alternative "basket". :)

Tor

12:30 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Finally the switch has happened! I`ve been waiting for this to happen for several months. Traffic is already picking up for most of our sites.. :)

austtr

12:32 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing results that are very different from Google so I'll assume for the purposes of this thread that these are the new Yahoo results.

Two immediate observations:

1) No SERP domination by directories
2) Relevance - the SERP pages actually relate to the search term.

A mischievious thought, but I wonder if Google is about to become the masters apprentice?

shaadi

12:34 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just love 'em

msgraph

12:39 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm impressed with some of their results. I can actually find what I need instead of being served other directory sites, amazon, shopping.msn, blogs, .GOV sites, .EDU sites etc.

They definitely blow Google out of the water in this area.

I'm not too keen with the all OV listings above the fold on 800x600, I hope that can be toned down.

Other than that, well done Yahoo.

pardo

12:39 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Germany has still powered by Google results.

can report the same old google serps overhere in the Netherlands... :(

viggen

12:42 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nothing to fall back at Yahoo/Inktomi on other languages then english, so we might have to wait for a while to see regional Yahoo switching?

creative craig

12:43 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seeing the new and improved results on Yahoo, glad that I got in Ink a while back and should see alot more traffic.

Google kicked a few sites down to god knows where last month but now back to the top again thanks to Yahink!

Craig

Liane

12:45 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Pardo (and others not seeing the new results),

Yahoo announced that it would be rolling out the new algo over a period of several weeks. Be patient, it will happen for you too! :)

tigger

12:51 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do hope whats showing on .com moves over I'll be a very happy chappy

gweston

12:58 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Definately new results...they have my pages from 6 months ago right up high in the serps. Hmmm maybe they have started using Inktomi's results...no that would my 2002 pages.

Hissingsid

1:00 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

In the UK the yahoo.com results look like Inktomi but they ahve a cached page which looks very much like the Google presentation of cached pages. I've not seen a cached page on Inktomi before.

The .co.uk results are still Google January results.

Best wishes

Sid

KPosition

1:06 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't know about anyone else but I am seeing FAST results mixed in with Inktomi results for certain search phrases.

I am comparing MSN/Pure Search with Alltheweb and Yahoo - there are FAST results that do not appear anywhere in Inktomi at all for the same searches.

Might be wrong...

creative craig

1:07 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing FAST results mixed in with Inktomi results for certain search phrases

Same here for travel related widgets, looks interesting!

nvision

1:13 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Still seeing old Google on .es and .co.uk from Spain.

.com is all Ink from here.

How does that leave a rough percentage comparison/breakdown of Google vs. Yahoo & Co. traffic now?

vbjaeger

1:14 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing the new results, but they seem a lot like Google's Florida results for us.

good2go

1:16 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nice to see Yahoo has added the page cache, normally only available from Google.

Yahoo claims this isn't from Inktomi, but something new. But we're seeing the the "new" Yahoo engine with the same 301 redirect problems that Inktomi has.

Our largest client has the wrong domain listed on both MSN and Yahoo now.

But I'm not complaining since Google has dropped many of our clients. At least Yahoo is now consistent.

MrSpeed

1:19 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo claims this isn't from Inktomi

Ink is still spidering correct?

It seems like the results thus far are a hit. Imagine of Yahoo partnered with MSN and AOL. Google could quickly be moved to he back burner.

Amazing how quickly things can change.

bostonBeans

1:25 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Doing some searches in areas I am intimately familiar with, and areas I consider myself a casual user. Both look pretty good.

Long-term, this is going to be great for search marketing and competitive balance on the web. It may be a challenge in the short-term as we adjust though...

oneguy

1:27 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm impressed with some of their results. I can actually find what I need instead of being served other directory sites, amazon, shopping.msn, blogs, .GOV sites, .EDU sites etc.

They definitely blow Google out of the water in this area.

I agree. To me, those things are spam/noise (in the sense of being in the way of my search results).

Yahoo is doing a nice job, and their timing couldn't be better.

jaski

1:29 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Oh yeah, no google any more in India. Already got my first sale from the new SERPS ;)

rehabguy

1:33 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It may be a challenge in the short-term as we adjust though...

I'm looking forward to adjusting in the short term after 3 months of looking at .gov, .edu and .co.uk sites for retail product searches on Google.

I think Google wigged out and changed their SERPs prematurely, knowing they're facing a black eye in the search engine world.

I predict Google will be regulated to < 15% market share after 3 more years of Yahoo and MSN getting serious. Then, after their valuation has dropped by 80%, MSN will step in and buy them.

Thank God for competition! (And consistency for awhile, I hope)!

glengara

1:34 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I had a quick go but nothing sprung out, do they ID the PFI through the Url?

borisbaloney

1:35 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are the SEOs amongst us happy with the move?

I prefer to not place my sites on the "cutting-edge temporary trends" as many do, so I must say that this is proabably a good thing for the consistency of my search traffic.

Any thoughts?

[edited by: borisbaloney at 1:36 pm (utc) on Feb. 18, 2004]

Alternative Future

1:36 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Agree the results look good...

But, what I find strange is, if Yahoo says itís not using the Ink DB, where are they getting their results from?
I have a site that has been in the Yahoo directory for several years, many page listings in the AV SERP's for same domain, and until recently it had many results in the FAST SERP's and fell out of the Ink DB about a year ago.
Now when searching Yahoo the site is not listed... Strange stuff!
Done some research between Y and ATW results are different, so falling out of the FAST DB was not the issue!?
edit I thought they might have used their own directory as a place to start getting their results.

Anyone ideas on how to speed the process up of getting into the Y SERP's yet or is it still too soon to tell?

-gs

[edited by: Alternative_Future at 1:43 pm (utc) on Feb. 18, 2004]

hazardtomyself

1:39 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Definately Ink here on the U.S West Coast. It's great to have different results...good or not. I'm sure as always some will cheer and some will denounce. But at least they are different.
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