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HHH! Wait a day or so to start rubbing it in MMT (many are still in shock right now, the jab will be sharper then).
joined:Jan 31, 2004
joined:July 21, 2000
Yahoo shows my old dynamic URL's that have been changed for some time. It looks like an old database.
I am seeing the same things. My pages in the index are pretty old. Dynamic URLs have been changed to static ones a long time ago. Yahoo only shows the old dynamic URL pages. Number of pages are much less (about 1/20 of what I have in Google). Some very old pages showing up in the SERPs. It seems that the crawl was done at least 5-6 months ago. No new pages made during last the 3 to 4 months showing up. I am also seeing a lot of PDF files in the SERP for some terms.
1) The new SERPs have been aprtly good for me. Some sites which do not appear anywhere in google even though all rules as I kow them have been followed, are right at the top in the new Yahoo SERPs.
2) Looking at all my sites, I can confidently say that they are all from Ink/ Overture / maybe FAST.
3) I have sites appearing at the top (no.1!) which by all logic should not have been there. The keyphrase is popular too! Its an abandoned site that has no links to it, and been abandoned for an year. It says so on the site too!
4) Not as many pages indxed as google - in fact, the number pf pages indxed for all my sites seems to indicate an Ink or Overture database or a combo.
5) None of the recent changes on my sites are there in SERPs. (I am stil at the top, so I am not complaining!). The database seems OLD.
Overall, I am not complaining, as I am doing well. IN some cases, I believe its well deserved. But in some other cases, I am stunned by the inclusion of sites with zero or minimal links.
In my opinion, the new Yahoo puts a lot of emphasis on on-page optimization than Google. Don't know if that's good or bad. But competition, definitely, is!
An index that is six months old will be crushed by google.
It looks to me like they have switched back to google results.
Maybe they thought we wouldn't notice.....
I would love to see a solid competitor to Google but if this is Yahoo's big launch...they won't be much of a competitor.
MMT - I think some people are seeing new pages included quickly, but old pages that were spidered and included some time ago are not updated. That is certainly the case with my site and seems to be for others as well based on comments here.
once google rolls in the 64...... changes it might start looking a lot fresher than yahoo.
I'm happy that directories don't rule the new serps and sites that link to me don't show up ahead of me in the serps for my terms.
>An index that is six months old will be crushed by google.
Tough to argue with, but new pages seem to be included.
>It looks to me like they have switched back to google results.
>I would love to see a solid competitor to Google but if this is Yahoo's big launch...they won't be much of a competitor.
I fully agree with the first part of that and hope you are wrong about the second part ;)
I'm happy that I can type in "how to" type searches without playing with quotes and find sites that tell you "How To" do it. Google has messed up NL-type searches lately while Yahoo is showing potential
Compare some results on how to [enter phrase here] on both Google and Yahoo.
For example, type how to plant flowers.
joined:July 21, 2000
I agree that this needs to be regularly updated if this is the case.
I wonder if we are now seeing people who have lost their Google rankings making some well-researched statements on these results!
Only to be expected.
Monitoring responses across a variety of sources seems to have produced more people yelling Yippee rather than YahGarbage so far.
Only time will tell, though.
It would also be interesting to know if they're using Inktomi, or a hybrid with Overture, or something entirely new.
So many positive comments you gotta think that GoogleGuy is also reading them - and getting a little nervous.
I should stop saying "relevant." Searchers want "useful" not just "relevant" and there's a world of difference. G was providing relevant pages in Florida/Austin, but most of those .gov, .edu, and bookseller sites were certainly not "useful."
So what happens next?
Yahink will tighten up as time passes, and get better at weeding out spam. (It was easy to game G two years ago too.)
Meanwhile, G has already made good strides with Brandy. If it can dump more of the .edu and especially the bookseller listings, things could get interesting. Then of course M$N still looms. Remains a three horse race IMHO, although G has certainly lost most of its advantages...
Y! has confused an old page that hasnt been online for 3-4 weeks with my index page. Pure INK has the correct page, but Y and MSN show the wrong page.
It even reads:
"Under Construction. The site you were trying to reach does not currently have a default page. It may be in the process of being upgraded. Please try this site again later."
So much for its ability to detect dupes and spam.
joined:May 28, 2002
1 site - over 4 y.o. plenty of backlinks for the spider to follow...not in the index, not just buried but as if it doesn't exist.
new site - no backlinks for the spider to follow, not one...its in the index. How it finds out of this new site beats me. Currently showing 'Apache default page' in the cache.
I don't think it was penalized for something because using ATW shows that my 4 yo site doesn't exist but the fact is at ATW itself the site have several hundreds of pages. So, how on earth ATW can't see the domain?
It seems to be then that Y is using ATW database but algo might be completely different.
Anybody have any idea how can I fix this problem if disappearing domain?