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They say they can't accept paypal in their country, nor credit card. Therefore my only solution was to use an escrow service like escrow dot com - Yet the wholesalers have never heard of it and seem untrustworthy of it.
They've sent their proof of business license and passports via fax, but those can be altered by a good scammer.
Being apprehensive due to the proliferation of online fraud, what do you do when you're in this sort of a stalement? Any suggestions?
If you look on the PayPal website, go to the PayPal World Wide link. It says that it is available in India, just that they cannot withdraw directly to their bank accounts. That means they have to ask to ge the money by check.
It has been our experience that it takes about a month and something like a %3 fee for the conversion. This makes it uncomfortable, but not impossible for them to receive the money.
you're lucky, i've imported custom goods, which have to be paid for before they are even manufactured let alone shipped - obviously because if i backed out they would be left with a load of (possibly) unsellable goods.
if the order is big enough fly out and check them out ... otherwise i've found that the trade delegations at the appropriate country's embassy are extremely helpful - they have lists of recommended factories and it is their interests to put you onto good reliable sources because they don't like fraud either because it darkens the reputation of their country.
I would only deal with companies who employ standard exporting practices and I would investigate them well before sending anything.
From my experiance yes, you must pay before shipping, but there are international shipping standards such as FOB, that should be followed.
If possible use a Credit card, you may get protection from your C.Card co. in case of fraud or major misrepresentation
Or look for a gov directories for the country of manufacture,
Ie: Canada Gov site Strategis
Good luck, protect your hard earned money from Theives
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The part that scared me was that they went there with CASH and paid for it all - and then hired a shipping company to go to all the suppliers and pick it up, package it, and send it to the US. Amazingly to me, everything showed up damage free and complete two months later.
They did say that they had a lot of trouble with old bills - it seems that people in Bali are very cautious about counterfeit money. The Balinese demanded only the latest issue US currency, or their own currency. Other than that they had no problems with fraud, and said that they never had any concern that they would be ripped off.