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g1smd

11:13 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> Homepage Gone <<

You need to check very carefully that it isn't indexed at an alternative URL:

domain.com/
www.domain.com/
domain.com/index.html
www.domain.com/index.html

For a lot of sites, some other variant is indexed and it can take a bit of searching to discover.

.

Also, make sure you are very intimate with all of these searches:

site:domain.com
site:domain.com -inurl:www
site:www.domain.com

because there are some hidden surprises (nasty ones) to be found there for many sites.

.

Oh yes, I do most of my searches with &num=100 on the Google URL, and I always check both with &filter=0 and without it.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:29 pm (utc) on June 17, 2006]

M_Bison

5:38 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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copra now showing on 38 of McDar's 56 DCs.

I think copra will eventually stick, but the question is when?

jaffstar

6:05 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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copra now showing on 38 of McDar's 56 DCs.

That may be.... but explain why I only find my site on a fraction of these copra dc's.

Btw. I dont like the name copra! I have associated it with anger!

crobb305

7:26 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How far back do I have to go to learn about all this Copra stuff? I am just returning from vacation.

petehols

7:37 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Crobb305

Copra are the results that a lot of us want to proprogate throughout all datacentres as we fell the relevance of these DCs are good. The other results are known as "turd". There are now 42 DCs with Copra and 14 with "turd" this is the highest ever so far and hopefuly we should be seeing the Copra results n all of them soon.

Pete

M_Bison

7:50 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hissingsid was the one who coined the copra and turd terms.

last weekend copra was showing in just under 40 DCs (iirc), but then receeded and lingered around on 20-30 DCs. Now it is surging again and I am now seeing it in 40 out of 56 McDar DCs.

toothake

8:06 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"I think copra will eventually stick"
How ,having the DMOZ titles on index pages? Stop dreaming and wait for the real thing somewhere in the next weeks or months.

petehols

8:47 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Toothache

I am looking at a few sites in my sector which is travel on the Copra results none of them has the Dmoz titles in?

So how can you say thy wont stick there is every possibility that they might.

Pete

toothake

9:01 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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petehols
check those 2
1)http://64.233.171.104/search?hl=en&q=london
2)http://64.233.161.147/search?hl=en&q=london
see the titles for
www.london.gov.uk/

reseller

9:01 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

That "Copra results" thing. Can any of you list the DCs which show those results at present?

And how a "Copra results" should look like? more search relevancy? less canonical problems? less supplementals listings? more page listed? etc..

Thanks!

toothake

9:07 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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plus in yoour great copra results for search term London wikipedia is at 4th place (second page at the old results) over the official pages this is disgusting.

toothake

9:09 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Reseler at my msg #:68 you can see the one copra and one not copra the copra one is the one uses short titles taken from DMOZ

toothake

9:13 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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But I smell fish here and finally copra will stick you know why just another small theory here if you check every City ,state ,country in the world ,wikipedia comes on top 3-6.I bet you within the next months wikipedia will not be anymore an unprofit organization ;)

rkhare

9:18 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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just noticed, the supplemental tag disappeared from many of my pages, but still present in rest. hoping that the trend continues and my site comes out of supplemntal problem :)

M_Bison

9:31 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Stop dreaming and wait for the real thing somewhere in the next weeks or months."

I'm not dreaming....the copra results are very real. We can argue until the cows come home as to when they will stick, but it still doesn't change the fact that none of us have any idea as to what is going on or when copra will stick.

Dayo_UK

9:51 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



It looks to me that they are still trying to fix the issue with the site:domain.com/ hypen etc problem.

And this is maybe why some DCs are rolling back, showing different results or something.

Although the site:domain.com/ and the site:domain-domain.com was sort of fixed a week or so ago the allinurl:domain.com is still not showing supplementals and a site:domain.com domain.com does not show supplementals.

IMO I dont think we will see real progress until that has been fixed and everything we are seeing now is just side effects of G tampering.

reseller

11:29 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

"IMO I dont think we will see real progress until that has been fixed and everything we are seeing now is just side effects of G tampering."

Well said, Dayo. That was a short but very precise analysis ;-)

reseller

11:38 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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toothake

"Reseler at my msg #:68 you can see the one copra and one not copra the copra one is the one uses short titles taken from DMOZ"

But those DCs showing the titles from DMOZ have been there for the past few months. I posted about them at that time. So what is new this time :-)

Hissingsid

11:45 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I'm only seeing Turd on 64.233.189.104 now.

The DCs that had Turd yesterday seem to have changed not to Copra but to another dataset/algo.

Anyone have a name for the new results? Perhaps "Dung".

Sid

reseller

11:56 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hissingsid

>>The DCs that had Turd yesterday seem to have changed not to Copra but to another dataset/algo.

Anyone have a name for the new results? Perhaps "Dung".<<

DCs have been changing all the time especially since the arrive of BigDaddy. Can you imagine how many names we might have "consumed" if we had to give a name for each and every one of the ever-changing results :-)

wiseapple

12:04 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A question ---

When I do a search of "site:****.com -www", I get approximately 15,000 pages in the index. However, a year or so ago - I redirected everything from non-www to www. Is this command showing everything non-www?

The strange thing - three data centers show no results - 72.14.207.99, 72.14.207.104, 72.14.207.107

Does anyone know if this is problem. If so, any remedy?

Thanks.

toothake

12:05 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Anyone have a name for the new results"
Yes ,Dalles or Oregon ;)
[google.com...]

Hissingsid

1:23 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Interestingly if I go directly to 72.14.207.99 with a browser that has old cookies on it I still see the Turd results. If I then clear cookies and block new ones I see the new Dung results.

Reseller, there's many names for crap but its still crap.

Best wishes

Sid

g1smd

5:25 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Adam Lasnik posted about a bad data push [threadwatch.org] earlier today.

rkhare

5:32 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Anyone have a name for the new results"

how about "Katrina"

arnarn

5:47 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Guess the "bad data push" has pulled the plug on our sales!

Amazing how the xspurts at G take so long to spot an error like that, let alone prevent it in the first place.

I guess G is still playing the engine like it's a game.

Too bad the innocent get hurt!

zafile

5:48 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



Is Adam's "bad data push" related to messed up titles in SERPS?

Dayo_UK

5:56 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



Hmmmz - Ok so while loads of Webmasters cant get more than the homepage indexed due to Buggy Google at the moment a site like that can get billions listed.......

crobb305

6:06 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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petehols,

I see 2 different datasets, one of which includes my website ranking well. Which dataset is "copra"? How do I recognize it as such?

crobb305

6:09 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Adam Lasnik posted about a bad data push earlier today.

He mentioned it today, but I wonder when the "data push" actually occurred? Is he referring to the changes many observed a few days ago? I am seeing my site's rankings return after it disppeared Wednesday for 3 days.

avalanche101

6:13 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
A little bit off topic, just tracking some results on all google data centres and specifically on www.google.co.uk and it appears to be down, I'm not getting any returns.
Is google.co.uk down?
If so, it'll be the first time ever.
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