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>> Homepage Gone <<
You need to check very carefully that it isn't indexed at an alternative URL:
domain.com/
www.domain.com/
domain.com/index.html
www.domain.com/index.html
For a lot of sites, some other variant is indexed and it can take a bit of searching to discover.
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Also, make sure you are very intimate with all of these searches:
site:domain.com
site:domain.com -inurl:www
site:www.domain.com
because there are some hidden surprises (nasty ones) to be found there for many sites.
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Oh yes, I do most of my searches with &num=100 on the Google URL, and I always check both with &filter=0 and without it.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:29 pm (utc) on June 17, 2006]
I think that they are just trying to be too clever and from where they started from a simple easy to use search engine has just turned into a pile of useless information that searchers can't even find what they are looking for.
While I agree the current results are crap, I think we should keep in mind that the spammers are (in large part) respsonsible for the current state of things. The recent story about the spammer who injected google with billions of pages of junk is a prime example. The bad guys always seem to stay one step ahead of the cops...
The talent and resouces being thrown against it are likely too much for it to handle.
Desktop Machine is picking up 66.249.93.104 and my laptop is (wirelessly) on 64.233.183.104.
Which one is the Turd? I'm in one of them.. (gulp)
for example I get different Google IP from my home ( the IP starting with 72.14. ) and from my office (64.233.183.104.).
I noted that this IP 64.233.183.104. has a cache older than the 72.14 ..... .
I think that the fresher ( 72.14 ) index is cleaner: less spam compared to 64.233 .... .
I'm not surprised to see spammers winning the battle because Google took 5 steps back with Big Baddy.
Spammers will continue to make an inroads into Big daddy because Google is not going to fix the problem.
Which one is the Turd? I'm in one of them.. (gulp)
64.233.183.104 is Copra
66.249.93.104 is Turd
Sid
I think that the fresher ( 72.14 ) index is cleaner: less spam compared to 64.233 .... .
There are two different (at least) data sets on 72.14*
You'll have to be more specific to have a useful conversation.
Sid
Credit due they fixed it. As we knew they would.
Can't see that from what I'm looking at still on 35 DCs.
Pete
72.14.221.104
but now it displays old cache.....
Google is a joker at the moment...
As mentioned by Adam recently, and as most of you might have noticed, our good friends at Googleplex are having problems.
Lets give them sometime to fix things and wait and see what will come up in August 2006 where most of Google's employees are expected to be back from their loooooooong vacations ;-)
>> "I have high rankings, but I am not getting any traffic" <<
Sound familiar?
You have only been looking at about one-third of the Google datacentres that actually exist; so, while you were seeing one result, potentially two-thirds of the world were actually seeing something completely different.
Today I have been working on a list of Google DataCentre IP addresses [webmasterworld.com], and the new list is nearly three times the size of anything that I have seen published anywhere else.
long live copra...lol.
That's one explanation. The other explanation is that a site's really deep pages are no longer ranking.
For example, I have about 20 pet searches that I check to monitor Google SERPS. On all of those searches, on both Copra and Turd datacenters, my site is doing great.
However, overall Google referrals are down about 50% since Friday.
My site happens to do a ton of traffic on obscure, long tail type searches. However, it seems that these searches are no longer referring traffic, while the larger, more competitive searches are.
My sense is that this has something to do with the bizarre stuff that's going on with supplementals and site: counts. Or the fact that others have managed to inject billions of stolen and/or autogenerated pages of crap for every conceivable search into the index.
It will be interesting to see if this is just a "bad data push" or really is an update pertaining to how Google manages obscure searches.
Im not talking trade secrets, or the intricate details of their algorithm, just general concepts, as it currently stands, such as the number of datacenters, average number of computers in each datacenter, volume of data being managed, diaster recovery, etc. Hey this is google, not the NSA. This information should be out there.
As much as I can say is that the IP addresses that are resolving to different versions of the index are (allegedly I must add) a network set of computers that were previously not public until they were expanded since bigdaddy - however the association to "data centres" is a different concept that I don't think is the same anymore.
My site disappeared from two very competitive searches last week for about 4 or 5 days. Then it reappeared over the weekend. Now the size of the result sets is decreasing. Decreasing in one case by 25% or 100M pages (was around 400M, now its around 300M).
I agree with the theories that index is being rebuilt as my observation is that the quality is slowly but surely coming back.
Sorry I just had to ask.
Today I have been working on a list of Google DataCentre IP addresses, and the new list is nearly three times the size of anything that I have seen published anywhere else.
The SERPs at <the online tools> now reflect all of these datacenters. (Normally I would not have posted this except that it is directly relevant to this particular discussion.)
[edited by: tedster at 3:58 am (utc) on June 23, 2006]
[edited by: tedster at 3:59 am (utc) on June 23, 2006]
Pete
There are now at least four disting datasets.
Here are current examples of each:
64.233.187.99 Copra
64.233.163.100 Copra Variant
64.233.185.107 Original Turd
66.102.9.99 Turd Variant
Sid
