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Current BigDaddy status from what I can see:
- BD is visible on (using 'sf giants' test)
That is around 1/3 of datacenters listed on the McDar tool (I think).
- For me at least BD is returning a significantly lower number of indexed pages.
- BD index is still clogged full of scrapers, doorways and 404s. Meanwhile the sites sticking by the guidelines are getting trounced.
Google puzzle me.
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joined:June 11, 2005
You'll have to take my word for it that the "sf giants" worked earlier and the serps were incredibly different from the other regular "sf giants" results.
joined:June 11, 2005
Additional note: My earlier comment that gppgle.com and 18.104.22.168 were the same is wrong, they are slightly different and yet both pull cache from 22.214.171.124. (i.e. site counts differ 10'000 here and there and the odd search, say for my name, gives one or two differences)
Basically, number of urls for my domain with fresh cache is stagnant and the increase in page count is due to the addition of hidden supplementals with ancient cache.
That has been a major problem for the last 18 months or more, but it seems that Google is completely uninterested in fixing it.
The replies that we have had back from the Google Helpdesk show that they have no understanding of what the problem is, even when we provided a list of search queries and direct links to real pages and links to the Google cache of those pages.
Lol, Any of them good?
>>>>The replies that we have had back from the Google Helpdesk show that they have no understanding of what the problem is
I get a similar impression that they dont understand what damage Canonical problems do to a site. Of course they probably do know but have to keep it under there hat.
A couple of days ago I said Big Daddy looked like it was hitting about 18 out of 25 C-classes that I was monitoring with a tool - this has gone down to 11.
At current rate of progress Mid March target does not look like it will be made IMO.
That would be a good trend if that turns out to be true, IMO. There are several complaints including myself that Big Daddy drop out huge number of pages from various sites, so it looks like there are big flaws in BD mechanism, if any. If propagation of BD were to be continued right now, it would be devastating to those sites that suffer...
Personally would not like to comment until after deployment and then a full crawl and index cycle.
>>>>If propagation of BD were to be continued right now, it would be devastating to those sites that suffer...
In the short term at least I would agree.
Although it has gone down to 11 I would not read to much into it - Google updates always wax and wane over the DCs.
This is particularly true for popular searches with several million results such as city names.
There may be nothing to it, but then again ...
Just an observation. :)
Google puzzle me.>>
Absolutely correct, if this goes on much longer the good sites (white hat) and Googles reputation will be in serious decline.
I got used to the front page traffic.
Intresting AOL does not show supplimentals for me etc in a site search - might always have been that way of course.
Not sure if we are making any progress - With MC reported as saying another 6 weeks to go - this is what he said 4 weeks ago just about.
Google stock dropped yesterday because the CFO gave a speech in which he said that Google's only revenue comes from advertising and they will not be able to grow that by anything they do internally. They will only achieve growth as the overall online advertising market grows.
Seriously 2 days ago google dropped 160 pages of my site completely out of the serps on the bigg daddy dc's, the other 450 older pages are still there and we are still getting no1 for a 328million results returned search. I cannot see any reason for it at all its like a rollback but why roll back an update.
BD dc's cannot get any worse.
If this is "fixing" things then I would hate to see what it looked like if it was ever "broken".
... and the responses from Google Helpdesk get ever further from reality. Just what are they smoking over there?