Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
How about getting a mod to rename the thread to "Discussion of the new Google Testbed?"
The testbed/sandbox is very interesting and there's a lot to discuss, but as far as I can tell it's not the one sending traffic.
It's a new thing that Google has chosen to share with us (as well as with competitors), and that's nice. We don't even know for sure if it's here to stay. I wouldn't think of it as an ordinary DC. More like a place for the engineers to test stuff out in large scale, but still in a controlled environment. As Steveb said (#28), it's not even certain that the ranking scores are the right ones. And may I add, why should they be? If the focus of the current tests isn't ranking, why do that part "100%" if "half-baked" will do?
The thing with tests is that some fail and others pass. So, some of it may spread to other DC's and the rest of the Google ecosystem, eventually. Other parts may not.
Or, to spell it out: Be careful that you don't confuse a single prototype of a tree with the forest ;)
(FWIW, YMMV, AFAIK, MY2C)
There results are the same as the test DC.
I'm stoked. Now waiting for the holidays to get over to see if it sticks.
The 'test' DC looks like it is without any filters and contains some seriously old sites.
Quit worrying about it!
But this ongoing reveal of their testing is interesting and less seasonally dependant since as clause says, I'm not sure they always let these into the rotation, except enough to get the data they need..
Sometimes, I think what we see are certain filters being tested either by being pushed to limits, or being turned off altogether. I think they sometimes learn as much by seeing what happens when filters are turned off, as when they are dialed to extremes. Some of the test DC's we see seem like SERP's they might distribute; others, no way.
I guess the things that we should look out for in the test dc is better handling of canonicals and 301s etc.
For me I definetly have less Homepage Canonical problems.... but as others have posted and via sticky mail conversations not everyone is seeing this.
I guess/hope with time more of you see this improvement.
Still no rank for the pages though :(.
>>Well I hope everyone is enjoying the over eating and over drinking season so far ;)<<
Eating and gaining weight..Yes. Over drinking..no ;-)
>>Still no rank for the pages though :(. <<
Then you have something to wish for yourself, tigger and other fellow members in your situations to come true during Feb. 2006.
You may wish also to start again posting your popular posts:
Listen Google! .. :-)
To me it doesn't look like an update but maybe they are just working on something.... anyone else seen this? It really looks like a snapshot of the past more than an update.
At least I'm hoping I'm not really PR0. :¦
.... ps its been a while since i was in the game, and the 7 exclusion filter doesn't seem to work for me in a search to show a website's position without any filters.... how do you show SERPS without filters nowadays? thanks :)
I also noticed a site thats meta refreshed rank along side its target.
Even though i do well in this index i hope it doesnt stick, or certainly that they only take some of the more positive things from it.
David
"Results 1 - 4 of about 24,200,000 for new year ecards"
and only 4 pages were displayed, it seems that this DC has already blown off.
In fact my site seems to return slowly. First time since Jagger I can see my homepage first when doing site:www.mysite.xy.
Does anyone see new results on these DCs too - or is it just my site returning after three months of dupe content penalty?
I saw those results briefly two weeks before Xmas, just for a few hours.
Great results also on [64.233.179.104...]
Not all pages are back on any DC. But maybe the penalty is taken away from my site.
Dayo: Do you see anything new?
We know there is an update brewing - not really a question of yes or no.
Taps - not much to add to what I said last night about some homepages coming back but not ranking.
One of my tests for sites that had problems is a site:www.domain.com www.domain.com search - I think that the www.domain.com(homepage) should be top on these searches.
For a lot of sites this is not the case - however switch to an advanced search and choose pages within the last 3 months and the www.domain.com(homepage) is coming first on most dcs.
Might be insignificant - but it might be that Google are getting to grips with the issue :/
Mozilla Googlebot pretty active over the Xmas period.
>>Mozilla Googlebot pretty active over the Xmas period.<<
Well.. I told ya before that Mozilla Googlebot is Anti-Spam Detective, which mostly visit "suspected" sites.
Have you done anything with your site that Matt wouldn't recommend you to do :-)
regards
trraju
But I dont think it is an Anti-Spam Detective bot.
nice to hear you say : "I can see my homepage first when doing site:www.mysite.xy"
do you think all sites that do not show the homepage first when doing site:www.mysite.xy are penalized?
merry merry christmas
i'm pretty sure that's true (after doing some tests)
I am pretty sure that is true too.
Whether it is a penalty or a problem/bug is the issue though (IMO)
do you think all sites that do not show the homepage first when doing site:www.mysite.xy are penalized?
I don't think so. It may be a homepage penalized but not the site.
That is what makes me think it might be a problem - eg a homepage problem can maybe occur due to Homepage Canonical problems or a 302 hijack - most of these problems effect the homepage more than any other page.
For a penatly to be applied just to the homepage seems a bit strange and would be easy to get around - it also results in internal pages still being able to rank and outrank the homepage for its own site name.
A bit of a strange way of applying a penalty - but who knows for sure.
For as long as I can remember site:mysite.com has returned a very random sample of pages. As of right now it's returning the home page and a couple other important pages at the top. At the same time, in the last couple hours our Google traffic has come back up to pre-Sept. 22 levels, an increase of nearly a thousand percent.
Whether this is the effect of a filter or just an algo shift I can't say, but the site: ranking and our G traffic seem to go hand in hand.
The word, whatever, once again returns to mind.
That is my conclusion also. It feels like an indexing problem.
macdave
This is independant of the test DC though?
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 5:10 pm (utc) on Dec. 27, 2005]
