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Update Saga. Part 5

     

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

Jessica

8:30 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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stll going on.

ssjxxx

8:31 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree. We're not done yet.

-S

Nick0r

8:33 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The new .9 is really nice though :)

Anything towards the end of the last thread that's worth mentioning?

Murdoch

8:33 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This thread is like the song that never ends. Yes it goes on and on my friends...

driwashsolutions

8:33 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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But I bet there were more than a few folks going through withdrawls during the hour and a half that this thread was offline!

Don't see much movement on the DC's today, but this seems to be a trend. One day of stability, the next day of movement.

Trisha

8:34 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Will the last thread ever be available again? Did part 2 ever come back?

ssjxxx

8:34 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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When I simply type in site:domain.com into www.google.com, I get J1 or J2 results. 66.102.9.104 has much better results from the same query. These results reflect a more recent crawl. I'm not sure whether the 66.102.9.104 results are final, but they are much closer than what I'm getting elsewhere.

Eazygoin

8:34 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Seems that so many people are seeing so many different things, and the McDar record is showing flux in few DC's now, but they include .9.104

tomapple

8:36 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, it continues...

I am seeing things like a "topic page" on a site listed as #9 on some DCs and for the same search terms an interior page listed, but way down the results on another DC, with the topic page not showing

ssjxxx

8:38 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We need reseller to perform his GoogleGuy dance so we can get a weather report. :)

g1smd

8:52 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If the update was supposed to address problems with supplemental results and the various canonical URL issues, then it hasn't even started.

junai3

9:01 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I like what I am seeing on 66.102.9.104.

reseller

9:02 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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ssjXXX

>>We need reseller to perform his GoogleGuy dance so we can get a weather report. :)<<

LOL...

In fact GoogleGuy just gave a weather report this morning.

GG said that results of [66.102.9.104...] shall spread to other DCs and there will still be flux.

WW_Watcher

9:02 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'll do my best GG impersonation,

Hmmmm
Jagger 3 is right on schedule, and rolling out as planned to more datacenters as we speak! Please send all spam reports to [google.com...] and make sure that you use the keyword jagger3 in the description area. You can expect Flux over the next few days as it finishes. Continued by everflux for the forseen future.

Hmmm
did that sound like him?

Back to watching
WW_Watcher

[edited by: WW_Watcher at 9:04 pm (utc) on Nov. 9, 2005]

jamsy

9:04 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Certainly not over.

RunnerD

9:06 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have 2 questions that 1 was answered in the last thread that I can't access anymore.

I have 2 directories in my ftp folder - public_html and www

They both contain all the same files. It seems to me like I should delete one of them?

Also, what is the exact code I should place in my .htaccess file to redirect so I don't see non www pages showing up in the serps.

Kangol

9:16 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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www is just a "shortcut". Do not delete it, this will not couse duplicate problems.

Leosghost

9:16 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

i'll bet you poked sticks into ants nests too when you were a kid ..:)

theBear

9:17 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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RunnerD,

They are links and actually are the same files and has nothing whatsoever to do with www vs non-www forms.

g1smd

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>> Also, what is the exact code I should place in my .htaccess file to redirect so I don't see non www pages showing up in the serps. <<

If your webserver uses Apache then try this code:

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^domain\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$
http://www.domain.com/$1 [R=301,L]

caveman

9:20 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If the update was supposed to address problems with supplemental results and the various canonical URL issues, then it hasn't even started.

The number of quality/useful pages not showing in the SERP's as a result of this is a real shame. If anything, the lead DC seems worse than ever in this regard. An optimist would say that the update is still in progress.

reseller

9:22 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

Because we have no access at the moment to part-2 of this thread, allow me to re-post my shameless anti-spam promotion spot :-)

Don't wait to send Jagger-related spam feedback; I'd send that now. Using the keyword "Jagger3" at [google.com...] will get someone reading and checking it out.

showtime

9:32 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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reseller

i report the same site as spam before jagger and after jagger with keywords jagger1,2,3 but no results they arenot working as we work i think

PhraSEOlogy

9:34 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Analysis of J3,

1. Brand new Spammy Cloaked site after jagger3 - doing well.

2. Five year old white hat site - slammed and not worth the effort.

Solution: Spam & cloak, spam and cloak.

Thats all you need to know about jagger3.

reseller

9:39 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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showtime

>>reseller

i report the same site as spam before jagger and after jagger with keywords jagger1,2,3 but no results they arenot working as we work i think<<

Both Matt & GG have mentioned that the folks are going through spam reports. But I guess its a complex process, because they must verify each spam report just to be sure that they don't penalize innocent people.
GG also mentioned that it takes time to remove big spam sites from the index.

In fact some fellow members have mentioned in part 2 or part 1 of this thread that they have noticed the spam sites they reported have been removed.

reseller

9:42 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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PhraSEOlogy

>>Analysis of J3,

1. Brand new Spammy Cloaked site after jagger3 - doing well.<<

Friend. The least you can do in this case is to report that spammer to Google. Such spammer shouldn't be doing well on the serps.

j_do

9:42 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I reported multiple obvious spam sites. They're still doing very well (2.5 billion pages in the index). Has anybody had succes with their spam reports?

tomapple

9:43 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anybody else seeing a little odd "stemming' behaviour in the J3 results?

One site that I watch, I type in a phrase without an "s" (big red widget) and the page from the site shows in the top 10 results. Then I type in the phrase with an "s" (big red widgets) and the page in down towards #30.

What is odd is that the links to the page as well as the text on the page is strictly "big red widgets".

PhraSEOlogy

9:47 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Reseller,

Friend. The least you can do in this case is to report that spammer to Google.

Er? Thats MY spammy cloaked site that doing well...

The old site is also mine but doing badly.

Dont think I can bring myself to create a spam report!

Especially after my nice white hat site gets slammed.

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