Update Saga. Part 5

[Brett_Tabke]

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

[colin_h]

Thanks Tigger, I should have seen how many posts that you have to your name and realised it was just a breakdown in communication between us.

On a lighter note I had to report my local railway station to google this morning as it was getting number 2 listing for "local web design". I've seen the trend in a number of regions also.

[zikos]

colin sorry but those link spamers (network link farming scams )are ranking top of the pops in this new update.I have repeatedly used the spam report that our friend reseler keep on remind us every morning ,but no mesurement have been taken from Google.If you want I can give you some examples what I mean.PAges that out of 300 pages of content the 200 hundred are "links partenaires" pages made a few year ago as travel guides of certain countries thay have now become web design companies and instead of link exchange thay put there targeted keyword on the hundreds of new domains and sites they create.Google gave them a PR6 so every new page they create gets a PR4 and a sidewide link back to them.To make it more clear if you have a small hotel they send there sales people to you they show you how great they rank for your area at widget hotels you pay them 2-3000 EURO they make you a premade template site with some pictures and a contact form and here we are.At the moment they have over 2000 clients in a very touristy country.I can stick the url to anyone want to know how he can be a rich by exploiting Google's PR system.

[colin_h]

I've also found a web design company in the top 10 for my "local web design" listing that has a section in its coding called "<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="hidden_keywords" -->" , followed by a huge amount of repeated phrases.

I would have thought that google should have found this and dismissed for being daft enough to tell them where to find the hidden text.

lol ;-0

[phochief]

"If you do anything to your website in order to list higher on search engines... you are a spammer."

Then why in the world are you involved in a forum that specifically targets webmasters who WANT to better their search engine results?

"Call it what you wish, target marketing, market forces or just plain competition ... you are unnaturaly affecting a search engine listing and that's taking the food from the mouth of someone more worthy than you"

Who has determined what is "natural" and what isn't? Google? Why are they right? If Google said tomorrow that they now encourage link exchanges, would you start exchanging links? Would we no longer be liars and cheaters if Google says it's ok now?

Listen, if we both sell widgets and you put up a sign on the highway and I put up a bigger sign and sell more widgets, would I be making improper use of my sign because I would get more customers? I would hope that we could coexist in the same marketplace, but if there were only enough customers for one of us, I would hope it would be you who went out of business, not me.

So, how's the Jagger update coming along? :-)

[reseller]

tigger

>>Don't ask Reseller ;0(

But at least now I have a bit of a recovery plan forming - shame its probably going to take a couple of years to pull back <<

Sorry to hear that. Maybe its time to reconsider new thinking within affiliate program marketing to meet the "new" search engines conditions. Most industries keep developing new business methods and models. Not much has happened on the affiliate marketing fronts.

Power to affiliate program marketing ;-)

[reseller]

Hi Folks

Within the sector I watch, I see these two DCs different from the rest of the DCs. However, I see on the two DCs fresh cache of some of my pages in addition to perfectly ordered pages when run command site: ( I know GG said that I shouldn't pay much attention to that).

216.239.59.99
216.239.59.104

Of course I don't know whether the serps of those 2 DCs wil stay around or just vanish during today or the weeknd :-)

[colin_h]

phochief

It's google's highway that your putting your sign on.
Selling red widgets is fine ...

Seling red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets is SPAM and it does not make you more relevant than billy widget down the road.

I don't know you and I'm sure that you wouldn't stoop to these tactics. But it happens and since my business went down the pan I want to hang out here and point out how uneven the playing field has become.

I think that google algo does not automatically dismiss any form of spamming, if it did there wouldn't be half of the sites in the present top listings. Instead I think they are improving access to people who want to report spammers and thus making their job a bit easier.

All the best

[phochief]

"All the best"

And to you too.. and to you too....and to you too...

:-)

On that note....I've just got to get to bed if I'm going to have any energy to sit on the couch tomorrow and watch football.....goodnight.

[Dayo_UK]

Wow - Googlebot crawled my homepage last night :) - probably a fluke.

colin_h - you said on an another thread that a site went PR0 and then regained its PR over the last few months - does that site still have PR - does it rank - or is that a dead'un.

Any chance you can sticky me the site url?

Also there was a tool (method of searching) once posted at WebmasterWorld that showed PR to the nearest decimal point - anyone got a link to that thread - it was ages ago and might not work anymore but it was like a strange serp page I think. Anyone remember it - or did I dream it.

Note to self - when looking for Web Design Jobs in the Norwich area dont send CV to railway company ;)

[tigger]

Good luck Dayo I hope this time its turning for you