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September 21 Referring Sites
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Weird update and weird that there is no update thread.
For what its worth I see a previously "supressed" site back after being lost in a previous update.
I see another two gone.
All three sites are totally independant, unrelated and have unique content, all are over five years old.
The only thing they share is that they all have been SEO'd by me in the same ways (amaturish but effective up until now).
Can see no logic so far, so prefer to think that the update has a long way to go or Google are having problems (again).
Somehow I feel its tied to scrapers copying your content. Google, why not using historical data (simple stupid : which one has been indexed 1st) in determining which domain is a "parent" and else are "scrapers".
joined:Dec 29, 2003
your site has lost Google's "trust". No matter what you put there, it will not do good until you gain that back.
I see many pages ahead of me in the SERPS from websites that were banned and recently released (after removing hidden links and text). The link command shows these sites have no links, but the pages are ranking like they used to. It's almost like old backlink data is being used.
The rest of us will find out when it suits them for us to be fed titbits of information, some of it true, some of it blurred and some it downright misleading.
We are on the outside of the 'inner circle'. It is up to each of us to research and make our own conclusions and adjustments to our sites.
We cannot grumble on at what google is changing as we are not paying them anything for natural serps, we are making money by accepting free traffic from them.
IMO thats just the way it is and always will be.
I had a site disappear a short while back. Still site:www.domain.co.uk shows 'did not match any documents'.
Initially I thought I'd screwed up my Google sitemap (parsing error reported in the Google sitemap login area).
But now you guys are reporting issues, I have a couple of questions.
Those who have 'been wiped out':
Does site:domain.com show 'did not match any documents' or do you mean traffic / rank drops but same number of documents held on Google?
Do you use Google sitemap?
Thanks and best of luck to all those in the same boat as me!
For future references, there is a link right at the top of these forums glossary where you can find definitions of several terms.
I hope this helps.
what i have noticed with recent changes is that concurrently the serps are better for the best sites and worse for the worst sites..extremes of both so to speak..and this for both at the same time..so where the top ten used to be pretty good sites and some average sites you now get some very strong sites with some awful spam garbage..
as larger corporation sites will tend to benefit from trustrank and smaller niche circles of sites will tend to be outside the drip down of trustrank...garbage spam sites will have their own ways around this...ethical sites will not have moved in that direction...
If your site's not showing anything when you search for the URL in google that's something different to your rank changing.
If anyone else has an old established site, on a reasonably competitive subject, that's seem a bit of a change over the past couple of days, I'd love to hear here or via sticky mail to see if we can guess at what's been tweaked at the 'plex :)
if you follow...
so... .co.uk and .com are very different to say .de and .fr for the same search...
Just like any other previous update, its gonna be very tough as the update proceed. Google updates aren´t something for the weak souls. During Allegra and Bourbon some of our fellow members couldn´t take it any more and did a very wise thing. They took a break ;-)
And few words about our fellow member GoogleGuy. We might disagree with him on an issue or sevral issues, but we can´t just forget how helpful he has been.
GG is employed by Google and there are limits to what he can reveal in public on these forums. Please understand and appreciate GG´s situation.
As to GG´s contributions to this great community, here are few of GG´s 2827 posts:
GoogleGuy..thank you for being with us. Much appreciated.
(2) I'm using a sitemap extensively and it was working very well
this time it really hurts hard. Even after allegra my site hasn't been wiped like this. I've lost all of my motivation to work on that site. Unfortunately I do not have any motivation to work at all today.
I think I should take a break until monday...
At this point, it seems like there is nothing I can do except pretty much drop my almost 1,000-page website, consisting of original, expert-written content and move on.
I seriously doubt Google's intention is to kill informative sites like mine, but that is exactly what this algo change is doing.
I am in the fitness industry, btw, and you will find NO quick-fix diet or exercise info there - it is all about sensible eating, exercising most days of the week and living healthy. Nothing cheesy about it.
I've haven't read anything about that but will try and find some articles.
The site I've noticed a drop in ranking is listed in DMOZ, linked from news.bbc.co.uk and a few edu / gov, and most of it's (former) peers at the top of the SERP's for it's topic so I'd have thought it'd have enough trusted links to hold it's position......I did check though all my outbounds and found a few that seem to have picked up bans so maybe it's just a an issue that'll get sorted after a few crawls....and thanks for the comforting words caveman :P