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Google Update Bourbon - Part 1

Has the sandbox been busted?

   
8:35 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Seeing something happening on 64.233.163.104 and 64.233.167.104 - might be worth keeping an eye on.
9:03 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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still nowhere to be found even site is 2 months old with quality content and hundreds of backlinks are pointing on it :( PR is still on 0 too...
9:06 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Two months old with hundreds of back links, hmmm that might not exactly fall under Google’s natural progression timeline.
9:08 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well, most of links ARE "natural" ones linked by visitors, not "spammy" ones
9:12 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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All of the pages on one of subcats which showed their URL only are now back to normal (tittle, description and URL) with the caches dated May 18 on the following datacenters.
64.233.161.104
216.239.39.104
64.233.179.104

Plus over 60 more new pages were added.

but they're still showing the URL only on

64.233.167.104

What is going on?

9:18 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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FromRocky : I see the same for a couple of my sites that have lost their title and url - what does your description say now though:

Mine shows the DMOZ cat description!

9:22 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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what does your description say now though:

From META NAME="description"

9:28 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



OK...traffic is up on one money site. I would be very happy if it stayed like it was, but obviously even happier if the new ones sticked.
9:29 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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64.233.161.104
216.239.39.104
64.233.179.104

Those three datacenters show me in position 16... 64.233.167.104 shows me in position 11. Hope the last IP is the more up-to-date one.

9:39 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I go by how many listings it finds more than their position... I saw a jump from about 950 to 2000+ results for a unique word found in most of my sites.
9:45 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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no real moves in my sector.
but my pages gained 1-4 positions. if only 2-3 domain names disappeared, the results would be 100% relevant.
9:52 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that just came out of the sandbox on 64.233.167.104. I am pretty confident this will be the one.
10:08 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



I've got month-old pages that still aren't showing up in Google SERPs, except--ironically--in descriptions from listings of scraper sites. Maybe Google is subcontracting search to the scraper crowd? :-)
10:17 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In contrast Garyr_h
This shows me in 7th place
64.233.161.104 - May 18 CACHE

These in 25th
216.239.39.104 - May 19th CACHE
64.233.179.104 - May 19 CACHE

64.233.167.104 - was May 18th and 7th place til a minute ago, now 25th and May 19th. So by cache date it looks likely these last three are showing the "real" update?

Personally that's a big bummer, but all four seem to be a lot cleaner so nice work G.

10:30 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does newest cache equal the serps they will use?
I woudn't count on this.
10:30 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Over two years in the sandbox, and now #1, #3 and #5 on all my most likely terms. Too bad I'm not selling anything on it. But I'm a happy camper with this one (and on my birthday, no less!)
10:38 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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dvduval,

Let me put it this way, I have my fingers crossed that you are right and I am wrong. :-)

Seriously though it was the change on 64.233.167.104 that pushed me to post. It changed in front of my eyes from May 18th to May 19th and the SERPs with it...

10:42 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does this mean I'll be able to find things now or should I stick with Yahoo!?
10:53 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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but they're still showing the URL only on

64.233.167.104

Now, they are also back to normal on this DC. So, there is a slow change going on and not everyone is seeing the same thing.

10:58 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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lexipixel
I go by how many listings it finds more than their position... I saw a jump from about 950 to 2000+ results for a unique word found in most of my sites.

lexipixel, forgot to comment on that. Yeah normally that's useful but if scrapers & other junk are getting bounced then there might be LESS results now.

11:06 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



tell that to the GoogleBot...see what response you'll get.

"well, most of links ARE "natural" ones linked by visitors, not "spammy" ones"

11:47 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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When I just go to google.com, don't know which IP I reach by default, I see my site back at #1 for my main keyword, it hasn't been at #1 since mid-December when another update was done.

When I go to the IP's mentioned and search, I'm seeing my old results, #14.

What does this mean? I like what I see when I just go to google.com and hope that those are the results that stay.

11:54 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"When I just go to google.com, don't know which IP I reach by default, I see my site back at #1 for my main keyword, "
If those results are shown at AOL and Netscape that means are official ,that happens in all updates ,as for the Data centers they will dance a bit for a week or so .
12:08 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nope, still #14 in AOL and Netscape. ;-(
12:32 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wherever I look, I cannot see any major update.
You guys might have jumped the gun or this Bourbon is flat.
12:32 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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spaceylacie: If you show your page at #1 even for a while ,i bet you it will stabilize there in a few days,fingers cross.
12:37 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Wherever I look, I cannot see any major update. "
depend what topic you search and what specific url.There major ups and downs in my area.
12:37 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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not sure about anyone else but I think this is an update. My one site final after being in the 400-600 position on my keywords for a year has finally jumped to 51. it was 120 this morning. I can only hope it keeps going.

Update, algo change, mistake...I just hope it sticks.

12:39 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



we need to wait till sunday. By then everything will be clarified.
12:42 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I forgot to mention that all the scraper sites and junk is no whare to be found in the top 50...yea!
12:44 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see one server that make the Florida Update look mild as far as affiliate sites go. Same thing happened prior to Florida. The nasty news was buried on only a few IP's for several days, then boom.

This one will be interesting.

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