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Google Update Bourbon - Part 1

Has the sandbox been busted?

   
8:35 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]


Seeing something happening on 64.233.163.104 and 64.233.167.104 - might be worth keeping an eye on.
4:15 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What does that translate to for us non-geeks, Brett? :)
4:25 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Everyone must be off checking keywords.

Am definetely seeing changes on the datacenters mentioned for money kw's - well all kw's - looks like they have upped the importance of the title tag at first glance.

Brett - are you seeing a spike in traffic to WebmasterWorld - You have said previously said that - that has been one of your fist signs of an update. With people coming here to see if it is for real.

4:37 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Don't know if that has been seen before: On those DCs I've mentioned before the description comes from <meta description="...">. At least my pages show this behaviour.

Always thougt Google wouldn't care about "meta description".

[edit]oops - can see it on other DCs too[/edit]

5:06 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Site that took a hit March 23rd is still in limbo.

All my pages are still in the index, no URL only or supplemental listings, but still showing up below the irrelevant stuff.

I'm thinking (as I did last fall) that my domain name with 3 dashes is being frowned on with some kind of algo knob - if only I could move to another domain with semi-predictable results.

5:07 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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oddsod

Here is the translation .... The lava she be a dancing and a bubbling and doing the Google thing.

(you'll note that is what Google does anyway ;) )

5:10 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Still noticing very big differences between the DCs.

In lava speak, 64.233.163.104 is erupting while the others just seem to have tremors and smoke.

(do lava lamps smoke?)

5:20 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So far, so wonderful on 64.233.167.104 for me... (btw, GoogleGuy did say he is off on holiday for a week from today.... time to relax after this new index is rolled out? ;) )

[edited by: nutsandbolts at 5:22 pm (utc) on May 20, 2005]

5:21 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



anyone noticing increase /decrease in traffic cause of this?
5:22 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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walkman: no changes at all - like every friday since allegra
5:22 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This is for sure a real update, those who view it as a minor shuffle are seeign theis because there may not be a lot of movement in their searches.

I see a lot of pretty large changes happening in a lot of areas I watch.

Mack.

5:34 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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64.233.163.104

If the results stick on this DC and spread then, in my area at least, this are Googles finest results for quite some time.
Relevance is there, I am not seeing any real problems, indeed some sites that should rank for their main name and dropped in previous updates are back where they should be. IMHO this certainly is an update and not a reshuffle, fundamnetal changes, and for the better!

Credit where credit is due, I just hope they don't rollback or wreck them later.

Incidently, these serps make MSN look like amateurs, in my field at least.

5:50 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



" I can retire soon."
me too:) :)
5:57 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



On the two data centers that I've checked, my own ranking for a major keyphrase jumped from page 3 to page 1 in a matter of minutes. If this really is a major update, it may be days before we know what the final results will be.
5:57 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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phantombookman, good post. I and a few others have noticed the same thing. Lot of junk gone...well until black hats learn the new algo :-)
6:09 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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> who view it as a minor shuffle

Well, I think it did start as a minor shuffle a few days ago and has built. Before - dials were being turned - today, I think the switch was flipped.

6:12 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to rain on your parade, but my site is still not showing up for the site's name, way past scrapers, until page 12.

That's on the datacenter that makes you all so bloody happy! 8(

6:14 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Brett
today, I think the switch was flipped

Have you got a name ready? Could be time to christen it!

6:21 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



hmm....just checked another site of mine and looks like it has taken effect. Traffic about 30% up. I don't make any money from that site though. Oh well :)

[edited by: walkman at 6:21 pm (utc) on May 20, 2005]

6:21 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Middling to minor changes around here, more to the point though its still just shifting the deck chairs... still pollution of the serps with dead supplemental results, still ex-hijacked sites showing a penalty, still sandboxed sites, still very very little authority element in the algo.

On the other hand, quite a bit of very weak garbage has been spit up, which if typical of these middling updates will fade away in a few days.

6:25 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How about "Bethseda" - the merciful (at least I hope it will be).
6:38 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Bourbon is more appropriate. Still tipsy.
6:39 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google Update Bourbon

I like it ;)

6:40 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Lets go down to Bourbon street [webmasterworld.com] instead.

and as DigitalGhost reminds me, there was a character Bourbon Thret. [lambiek.net...]

6:41 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Have you got a name ready? Could be time to christen it!

So it's named Bourbon.

6:44 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



I'll drink to that.
6:49 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



europeforvisitors,
is your site back where it was?
6:49 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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May Bourbon bring back the 75% of Google referrals which Allegra took away from me... AMEN ;)
6:52 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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AMEN to that!
6:54 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am glad we decided this is not minor incremental indexing. 8 days ago I knew something was up when in my little world of the net where the serps never change...went haywire. My little website is still bouncing all over the place.
6:58 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the question is...what is Google trying to do?
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