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Backward Links Updated, The Cycle has Begun?

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3:50 pm on Feb 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We have just had our backward links updated. Has the newest cycle begun? Anyone else noticing this and what is the timetable for update "next allegry medication" name?
6:23 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was recently added to an extra Google directory page, but page rank shows 5/10 in both new directory page and PR showing on my page. It's probably something unique to your site. Your page rank is probably being updated due to a change you made to the site.
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The Directory was updated a couple days ago
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8:20 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes I saw the PR and ranking get updated in the directory however the toolbar has not been updated yet
8:22 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The Google Dir seems to be all over the place as far as PR is concerned. Many 8s as 7s, many PR6s as 7s, etc... I'm not sure if this preceeds a toolbar update of not, Google is such a state of flux, it's hard to know what's going on.
9:36 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've been watching this too, for my industry. I think (and I hope) that the G Directory is showing new PR for sites. I think they are already acting on the new PR ranks in the Serps, though toolbar still shows older ranks. In my industry, there are 2 sites that use stunts like huge volumes of paid-for links or ridiculous on-site directories of links to competitors sites, presumably done in the hope of benefiting from those sites traffic. These 2 sites now show PR0 in the G Directory and they have dropped like bricks in the Serps, though they still show some PR on the toolbar (though lower than they used to).Another site, who is not doing anything obviously dodgy, has dropped 9 or 10 places in the Serps, but still shows his old PR5 in the toolbar, but shows PR3 in G Dir.
My own site, PR5 for years, has gone up 1 or 2 places in the Serps, still shows PR5 in the toolbar, but PR6 in G Dir.
Might mean nothing - but seems to follow a pattern?
10:17 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Where is everyone finding the pagerank in the directory. I have no idea where to look this up.
10:27 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On G homepage, above searchbox, you've got options - Web - Images - Groups... More...
Click on More... and you will find directory, just a rehashed ODP directory. Find your industry as you would in ODP and you'll eventually get a list of included sites in that category. On the left, there is a green/grey bar like the Google PR bar off the toolbar. No PR value is shown, just estimate how far the green goes. I've even got a ruler out before now, 'cos I'm sad!
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On G homepage, click on More... and you will find directory. On the left, there is a green/grey bar like the Google PR bar off the toolbar. No PR value is shown, just estimate how far the green goes. I've even got a ruler out before now, 'cos I'm sad

You can look at the image properties to estimate more precisely.

pos.gif is the green part
neg.gif is the gray part
cleardot.gif is used for some sites as well

The total width equals 40px.

In decreasing PR, the sizes used are:
38px
32px
27px
22px
16px
11px
5px
cleardot

Some food for discussion:

There are only 8 notches here, and even a PR10 site like Google/Yahoo uses only the 38px image.

I also looked up a "cleardot" listed site, and the corresponding Toolbar PageRank shows as 2.

I'm not sure how they scale Directory PageRank compared to Toolbar PageRank, or if the two are even related.

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I think I've got a brain rank of BR1 - I'll stick with my ruler!
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Used to be a good link to how to use the directory PR bar and calculate the pixels although that page seems to be gone - but if you do a search here there are a bunch of good explanations on the differences in scales and the relative PR based on image sizes
12:44 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the toolbar is the same ,for me shows pr 5 google directory shows pr 6
1:56 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Let's see, it was mentioned many times that Google might be going to quarterly updates on the toolbar.

The last time the toolbar was updated was in the first week of:

June 2004
October 2004
January 2005

Anyone else besides me that sees a pattern here?

9:19 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyone noticed that Google STILL seems to be changing? I'm still seeing Google toggling between two sets of SERPs today. I'm in the sandbox in one and doing well in the other.
9:41 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yeah, annoying. Waiting to see which way it tilts
10:01 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello all,

we (in a forum in germany) have discovered very unusual sites, that could maybe generate duplicate content for EVERY domain you can imagine.

I started a threat here in wmm, but it is for review and i dont know if it will be posted.

Can i send somebody some examples to have a look on this? I am not sure.

10:28 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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we (in a forum in germany) have discovered very unusual sites, that could maybe generate duplicate content for EVERY domain you can imagine.

Clever,

Do you mean the 302 php redirects, sites copying off entire pages to their web site or something else?

10:32 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hello emmett,

i think the content (your page) is generated on the fly if you will call this sites with your domain as a subdomain.

/ and i do not mean only your index

I can send it to you if you like.

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Clever,

Go ahead and sticky it to me. From the description it seems like a site like that would risk getting a duplicate content penalty or banned altogether though they might make their $$$ before the search engines catch on.

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i think the content (your page) is generated on the fly if you will call this sites with your domain as a subdomain.

thats not true. that site doesn't jack content on the fly, i tested it.

10:47 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"The Cycle has Begun" :) This thread was started on Feb. 28th.

what I see is two DC sets. On one set the "domain" ranks, on the other it doesn't. I don't see the rest of the keywords ranking on either of them.

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thats not true?

Ok, they are only copy these sites and google is indexing it.

11:03 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Clever,

It looks to me like it's either framing or redirecting to the site in its url. Kind of reminds me of a link a ran across searching for my domain name once "mydomain.com.com" which kind of freaked me out but when I clicked on that one nothing came up so I think it was just a bug in the index. I'm not sure what the functional purpose of that site you mentioned is though.

11:13 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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dont know,

but i think all this subs have now disappeared from g.-index. :-)

10:48 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi all!

I just noticed a major PR drop on a big washington newspaper site going from PR8 to 7 for the index and 8 to 6 for many inner pages...

that's the current DC results:

toolbarqueries.google.com 7
64.233.161.99 7
64.233.161.104 7
66.102.7.99 8
66.102.7.104 8
216.239.59.99 7
216.239.59.104 7
216.239.37.104 7
216.239.39.99 7
216.239.39.104 7
66.102.11.99 7
66.102.11.104 7
216.239.57.99 7
216.239.57.104 7
66.102.9.99 7
66.102.9.104 7
216.239.53.99 7
216.239.53.104 7

On the other hand - many other sites I checked remained constant - so far.

Is this a partial piece of a rolling PR update or the early start of a full re-numbering?

Anyone noticed a change as well?

thanks,jez

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