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Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

         

illusionist

1:34 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

foxtunes

7:46 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This allegra update hits harder than grandma's year old bun-loaf right between the eyes.

3 of my sites have held steady during this update, but one flagship site, pure html, no affiliate links, thousands of backlinks including dmoz and yahoo directory listings, (even a few edu links) has been creamed.

Funny thing is this happened before on sep 23rd, I lost half my google traffic but mostly for the little keyword combos on sub pages, my main front page keywords stayed intact....Then before Christmas traffic began to flow better than before......6 weeks of traffic bliss until Allegra when 95 percent of google traffic on this site has now vanished.....

The sites now in the top 10 (I've moved from 1 - 35) I see now have very little front page text, under a hundred words of copy, very high keyword density, anchor text links in the menu bars or site maps lead to product pages with very little textual content....

After a few days research I've found that most of the sites currently in the top 10 have a couple hundred hundred backlinks at most, admittedly with a lot of variation in the anchor text, but most of these seem to be traded links with off topic web sites.

Can't complain really, it's google's engine and this site has had a good innings....but looking at the current top 10, I don't think this month's algo knob tweaking has made any improvement.

Perhaps the webmasters who have negligible front page text do better because they don't have hundreds of sites copying their text and content scraping....Which triggers duplicate content penalties.

theobeest

8:41 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I checked my website today, and it's gone into the sandbox.

A lot of spam websites have taken up the positions for a key phrase I'm optimizing for.

Theo

robster124

9:19 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This update is mayhem.

It seems that if there ever was a capacity problem, Google have solved the problem by removing old established sites and adding the sandboxed sites of whinging webmasters.

This is clearly an act of insanity.

walkman

9:46 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)



"It seems that if there ever was a capacity problem, Google have solved the problem by removing old established sites and adding the sandboxed sites of whinging webmasters. "

it is a disaster but I don't blame people "whining" about not ranking for a year or so. I blame G, the $56 billion company, for not being able to handle this correctly. Why did the move the first update to all the databases and then replace with this disaster? Is this done or...?

robster124

9:51 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Walkman - I'd be the last person to criticise people for whining about the sandbox - I have 3 significant investments stuck in it as we speak!

WebFusion

9:52 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wonder how many webmasters see the other side of the coin on this, i.e. the results look good.

Frankly, I've seen my oldest site (6+ years) stay rock-solid through every update from florida on (ok...it DID drop 1 spot on this one, but it still raniks in the top 10).

Further, my "newest" site which had been in the sandbox (or whatever caused it to rank on pages 100+ for all relevant key phrases) since late Feb/Early March has emerged in the top ten (actually over 60 #1 positions for various pages) with a vengeance as of about 36 hours ago.

Couple that with the telentless scraper sites that had been perying on my content like wolves being effectively zapped, and I have yet to see a negative to this update.

steve40

9:58 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think the updates done still see some major serp changes that have not seen before on 4 datacentres not sure if they are just oddballs but it aint over till the fat lady sings normally tuesday noonish or longer with major changes

so if your happy or sad
happy don't gloat
sad don't give up quite yet

steve

WebFusion

10:00 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Careful zafile - next month your site(s) may disappear. If you make any money this month then save most of it because it may not last.

Yep....make sure you save all your pennies, we all KNOW you can't pssibly make a living without google.

YAWN.

yeah that's great for you white hats with "quality content", but what about us affiliate scum? we need traffic too :)

Better start typing then.

Perhaps the webmasters who have negligible front page text do better because they don't have hundreds of sites copying their text and content scraping....Which triggers duplicate content penalties.

No....We have a "mostly" text front page, with only 9 images (including logo) and we've leapt up quite a bit in this update.

ltedesco

10:02 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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foxtunes,
I have the exactly same situation.
I hope it doesn't least too long.

bether2

10:07 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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First, my site has basically disappeared from Google. It doesn't show on any of the searches that I usually check, nor does it show for a search on my company name.

My 3 1/2 year old site also has disappeared from Google. Large hobby/non-profit site with some separate affiliate pages. Traffic went way down after the mid-December update. Now, with this update, it's non-existent. I think I had 4 unique vistors from google yesterday (aside from google images).

Glad I'm still getting traffic from Yahoo and MSN. :)

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