Serp changes

Seeing some serp changes

[BrewCrue]

Is anyone else seeing these changes in the serps?
Brew

[graywolf]

Yea I'm seeing it but it's intermitant. Don't like what I see, not sure what to make of it

added I just checked all the data centers I know of and they are showing old results.

[Marval]

Just saw it about an hour ago - looks about the same as the last one though - not much yet to perk the interest - hopefully there is some of the site scraping cut down

[bobothecat]

Looks like the return of some old-time spammers [travel]... either they've changed their ways and Google is adding them back to the index, or something really weird is happening ( which wouldn't be odd since we're talking about Google ).

[RichTC]

No change in the SERPs at all

Same dire results as i have come to expect from Google, same old names, Old favoured over new, Backling sites are winners, sites relevant to the search term are losers, same directory sites up at the top, no updates, no changes.

Same sh@t, different day! At the current rate MSN taking traffic from google will be a walk in the park!

[Powdork]

I haven't seen anything but I did just see a spike in impressions on my adsense account. Enough so that I came here to see if anything had been reported.

[layer8]

I have seen drops in serps, (some completely out of serps) and sum gains - to early to tell if its good news or bad.

[McMohan]

The results were significantly different for about 3 hours over at 216.239.37.99 on 14th. Reported the same, but was not let in by the mods :(

Mc

Added: Even 216.239.39.104 shows similar results as 216.239.37.99 different from other datacenters. But SERPs now aren't as different as they were on 14th.

[marcs]

Noticed some changes which started on the 13th.

[jkappu]

Hello everybody,

Right there is certainly change in SERP and it is cuasing heavily on all my client sites.

Non resiprocal links are the toppers while the old way of resprocal links are loosers here. I am facing heavy remarks from clients. Many of my site have disappeared totally and some have been dropped to 15 and 20+.

Do you think of non resiprocal links be the matter for such change?

Regards
JK Appu

[PhilDC]

Yes, big changes again this month...and again more bizarre and irrelevant.
I have been noticing ISP homepages sites getting extremely good results and news websites ranking highly for money terms.
Don't know about anyone else, but since Nov 24th 2004 my last few remaining sites that weren't sandboxed have pretty much died a death.

[layer8]

I am now seeing the sites completely drop in the cache but the serps have not been restored.

Also am seeing serp changes on yahoo - do you think they are playing musical serps?

[layer8]

Sorry - Just to clarify:

The sites I have seen drop completely out of the seach engine - serps and cache are now relisted in Google cache but the serps are still nowhere to be seen.

[webmasterguy]

something weird going on -

[edited by: webmasterguy at 4:56 pm (utc) on Jan. 15, 2005]

[webmasterguy]

Backlink update maybe! (On the way)

[thevoodoo]

I posted abotu this too, but I guess my message is still caught in review. Anyway, I saw two major and completeley different serps.

in one of them the top 3 people were down to the 10th pasge or more. I saw this in 30% of the datacenters.

in the other only one of the top three people was down to more than the 10th page. I saw this oen in 70% of the datacenters.

But today I only see the latter one. Anyway, I also see so many different changes in different domains that I really think it is way to early to be able to decide what this is about as far as algo changes go.

Most of the affected domains were organically optimized and were doing well for a long time, so I really don't know how I could justify an algo change. I think that G is just rolling out tests. I sure hope!so

[Freedom]

Something is definetely going on. For about 2 hours, an old and favorite site of mine that got wiped out from the major algo changes last year made it back to 6th place. Now it is gone again and the old results are back in place.

NOTE: I am not looking at the other datacenters, just through the google main page and toolbar.

[iblaine]

I'm seeing an increase in sites that are in the format [keyword.widget.domain.com....] Doing a search for "keyword.widget.domain.com" shows lots of blog/guestbook links. Before blaming google, it could be there are more people creating these types of sites.

[SEOPTI]

iblaine: This is a subdomain, I see nothing wrong with this setup.

[Crush]

I do not usuallly post in these ones because of the usual flux but can see a lot of movement there.

[thevoodoo]

I see changes above and beyond sub-domains showing better. there are sites Iused to see in the top 5 for major terms that have vanished now.

[xcomm]

SEOPTI

iblaine: This is a subdomain, I see nothing wrong with this setup.

I would describe this [keyword.widget.domain.com...] definitely as SE SPAM! It should easy to do penalizing on this...

But its something MSNBeta seems also to rate high. As well as the news/blogs related stuff - so G seems to adjust against MSNBeta here. :-)

Thanks, xcomm

[iblaine]

Little clarification to my previous post. It's not the subdomain that's the point. It's the backlinks and how google likes so many of them. My theory is that google is purposely making their search engine produce increasingly bad results, thereby thowing everyone off, :).

[RichTC]

well work this one out.

My webiste is a jobsite with thousands of pages and thousands of links and doesnt feature at all in the SERPS under any keyword in google. Its currently gaining some strong positions in both Yahoo, MSN & MSN beta.

Loads of my pages are PR5s and the google bot hits the site every day, minimum 50,000 Hits PCM

Under one keyword "Insurance Jobs" we feature constantly in position 370 no movement. I frequently check the position of this keyword and its for a subdomain insurance.mysite. Today when i check the SERPS i find i still feature stuck at 370 without movement but its my sites main domain results page listed rather than the subdomain page.

Its like Google wont list in the SERPS any of my pages despite having 30,000+ of them under my site name in google (none of which are indexed anywhere)but for the one "insurance Jobs" keyword is just swoping two pages at position 370

I just dont get it

[xcomm]

Iblaine,

It's the backlinks and how google likes so many of them.

Sure! Thats what their search once made big as well as the clean interface. But now building the engine on backlinks is the most devastating thing to their SERPs. I wish they could/would drop this ranking on tons of backlinks nearly all created due SEOing sites up!

That may be the only way for G.

But I'm not sure they can get a turn arround as they just seem to have all their attention to MSN. As overall Google seems to like M$ too much...

[thevoodoo]

Backlinks are important but not how many of them. It is how many of which kinds of them.

Besides, Google has already been giving soo much importance to backlinks, that it is virtually impossible to change it so much over the past few days so that some well ranking website that ranked for years now finally disappeared.

Does anyone sense anything but backlinks and sub-domains?

[pcarlow]

My subdomain is still listed #1 for "buy widget maker" but my regular domain has just lost over a couple hundred pages from the index and thus many rankings. :( Ouch!

[steveb]

"Before blaming google, it could be there are more people creating these types of sites."

Huge volume of zero quality linking, especially (but not only) to subdomains, is the way to beat the sandbox so of course more people are doing it, which also of course makes the Google results weaker by the day.

The good news of the past week though is this stuff doesn't seem to stick as high as where it first appears in the serps.

[BBB_Guy]

Besides seeing quite huge SERP changes, i also see quite a few allinanchor: changes, that cant be just a regular flux. Anyone else seeing allinanchor: changes?

[layer8]

Would it be easy for google to put sites into categories of importance? All sites in virtual domain a stay constant, this is the most important for our business.

All those in category b) gets subjected to crap serps from time to time to make the impression our search engine does not follow logic ;)

I gave up on it, when i do work and make my site better it drops out of serps. When I leave it to get old and out of date it gets a swarm of traffic.

I have given up on trying to work out G. MSN and Yahoo are gaining market share to which I have good serps so I am starting to not be bothered by this. The more G carry on the more market share Y and M get, the more traffic I will get ;)

Shout goes out their to all those PHD's - Thanks, give it another year and i will be drinking cocktails and eating lobster lol