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9:44 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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While speaking today, Daniel Dulitz of Google said the update will happen within 48 hrs and that is as specific as he will get.

left to right: Daniel Dulitz (Google), Jonathan Glick (Altavista), Paul Gardi (Ask Jeeves/ Teoma), Vish Makhijani (Inktomi), Steve Gemignani (Looksmart/Wisenut), Tim Mayer (Fast/AllTheWeb). At the podium - Chris Sherman of Search Day fame. Photo by WebmasterWorld.com - all rights reserved.

12:54 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Tartan, those pages were in the SERPs before the dance and all the way through the dance. Only their positions were changing during the dance.
12:55 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What can we expect? Hmmm. I predict a logo to celebrate the holiday. :)
1:03 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well I believe there will probably be some major changes in the rankings/algo. Either that or a very large number of pages added to the index.

Why do I think this? If nothing was going to change, why would the update be late.

1:10 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I predict a logo to celebrate the holiday. :)

Happy Googleday celebrations everyone!

1:12 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You may be right Jeremy... hopefully we're all optimized sufficiently to stay on top.

Now on my original question, and greatly appreciated responses, can I assume that the Google Dance period:

#1 Takes prior Deep Crawl (and some Freshbot) information to determine results after the dance;

#2 Google is 'silent' on our servers (no deep crawls or freshbots) during the dance;

#3 When the dance is over, we can hold our breath and check out our keywords for the adjustments..........

Is that pretty much it?

Thanks,
Steve

1:16 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm. Brett said withing 48 hours. GG said expect holiday logo.

Fat Tuesday was last week. Ash Wednesday is today. Then we have:

5th New Year in many Islamic countires
5th Custom Chief's Day in Vanuatu
5th Guam Discovery Day in Guam
5th Missionary Day in French Polynesia
6th Independence Day in Ghana
7th National Youth Day in Fiji

And the 8th is Women's Day in many countries around the world.

My one, only and last post in a 'waiting for Google' thread. Have too much other work to do.

Jim

1:16 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In the photo, is the gentleman from Google sitting all the way on the left because he is ranked first?
1:21 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In the photo, is the gentleman from Google sitting all the way on the left because he is ranked first?

I'm sure this Google Dance will be one heck of a game of Musical Chairs for them then. :)

1:24 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think the gentleman seated on the far right is well positioned to not be under the chandallier when it falls.

Either that or Googlebot is hanging off there.

1:25 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>5th New Year in many Islamic countires

Based on modern astronomical calculations that happened on the 4th. However, as traditionally this is based on the sighting of the crescent moon, this really has no fixed date. As such, I can't imagine Google having a logo for it. Given how minor the rest of those holidays are, methinks GG jests.

1:27 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can anyone who knows identify the people and their companies from left to right?
1:29 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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left to right: Daniel Dulitz (Google), Jonathan Glick (Altavista), Paul Gardi (Ask Jeeves/ Teoma), Kenneth Norton (Inktomi), Steve Gemignani (Looksmart/Wisenut), Tim Mayer (Fast/AllTheWeb). At the podium - Chris Sherman of Search Day fame. Photo by WebmasterWorld.com - all rights reserved.

Unless Brett lied.

1:30 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rfgdxm1, I don't think people need to dread this update at all. The crawl was a little late starting this month, and February is a short month. I still think it would be cool if we had a fun logo, as if update day were a holiday though. We could make our own holiday up. :)
1:32 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Daniel schmaniel...

I know his name is HAL. :)

1:37 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A new official holiday... "Google Fools Day" in memory of all the fools on here who went 2 weeks without sleep. 8~)
1:37 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Obsessed with Google? Never!

Not knowing who Danial Dulitz is rather than asking the obvious simple question I went to Google. With a name like Daniel Dulitz there is no place to hide on Google. ( I should know, my name is even more unique.

Apparently Daniel Dulitz is a software engineer at Google. Interestingly, the other search engine companies send VP's and the like to the search engine conference. Google sends a software engineer?(for all I know he may be the owner and major stockholder and is so self-assured that he needs no title)

In any event, pasted below is a statement from the 2001 Searchday conference.

Now, if we weren't already worried enough about the update we can panic about the possibility that our webhost was temporally unavailable when the big bot stopped by to spider
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Daniel Dulitz with Google said that Google's mission is to organize all the information they can find and make it useful to everyone.

Facts about Google:

Google boosts 1.3 billion Web pages now, making it the world's largest search engine.

Google offers 60 interface languages.

Google crawls the Web every 28 days, but it takes a little additional time for pages to appear in the index. It crawls some sites more often.

Google offers PDF searches, an image search in beta, and searches by date.

Interesting Note: Google crawls pages on the Web in order of importance.

Why are sites dropped from Google?

If a page is unreachable when Google's spider tries to crawl it, it will get dropped.

Also, sites can get banned because of "serious" offenses, either detected manually or automatically.

1:40 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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as if update day were a holiday

How about if we have an 'update day' logo only on www2 and www3? That would be cool, and since most of the general public wouldn't see it there'd be no problem right? Also we wouldn't have to keep checking Yahoo backlinks - just wait for the logo to appear - think of the bandwidth savings! ;)
1:41 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)



So what was the reason for the 48hr delay of updating?
The #1 simple question is still unanswered.
1:41 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some of these threads are so funny, it positively brings tears to your eyes. Well at least we know whats what now. Not that I was pacing the floor or anything.....
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The font used for the Google logo is 'Catull' that has been 3D'd with some graphics program. Unfortunately, we don't have it, but if it's out there, it may be a good starting point.
1:46 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>rfgdxm1, I don't think people need to dread this update at all. The crawl was a little late starting this month, and February is a short month. I still think it would be cool if we had a fun logo, as if update day were a holiday though. We could make our own holiday up. :)

<begin rfgdxm1 sucking up>

ROFL. I'll let you know after the update, and I check how well my sites are doing, if it should be dreaded or not. ;) However, I have no objection if the fun logo proclaimed the day of the update "GoogleGuy Day". You sir are publicly under-recognized, and deserve a day dedicated to you.

</end rfgdxm1 sucking up>

1:57 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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not bad rfgdxm1, not bad at all.. damn if you were working for me, i might even give you a raise after that one
2:00 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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By the way.. notice googleguy is here alot tonight.. a good indicator that the dancing shoes are being laced up
2:00 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hmm...where do I send my resume Helpmebe1? Am willing to relocate. ;)
2:02 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't know why... I was inexplicably drawn back to this thread... this sound... some giant sucking sounds drew me here...

Then I read rfgdxm1's post and it all became clear. :)

(I give it an 8 out of 10 -- actually make a Google logo and I'd give you the 9... 10 if it looks good too. ;)

2:06 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>(I give it an 8 out of 10 -- actually make a Google logo and I'd give you the 9... 10 if it looks good too. ;)

If I pray 5 times a day facing where GoogleGuy lives, would this be adequate?

2:11 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rfgdxm1.. New york.. I dont think you want to locate here.. had more snow this winter since the late 70's.. its been brutal cold and the pay, well it wouldnt be enticing enough... but you sure do kiss ass pretty well!
2:14 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had some pages indexed, that had been uploaded -- and found by freshbot -- AFTER the deepcrawl.

Thanks Troels, That gives me some hope. The fresh bot has been visiting almost daily.

Anne

2:19 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>rfgdxm1.. New york.. I dont think you want to locate here.. had more snow this winter since the late 70's.. its been brutal cold and the pay, well it wouldnt be enticing enough... but you sure do kiss ass pretty well!

Dude, I'm in Lansing, MI and the snow is deep here and the temperature 16F. It may be easier than you think to get my services kissing ass. ;)

2:38 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rfg, I feel your pain then.. trust me I do.. spring couldnt get here soon enough!
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