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Page Rank getting Stricter? [webmasterworld.com]
If the listings are still there (in Yahoo and DMOZ) it is possible a Google hiccup, and they should re-appear on the next update.
As well, over the last update DMOZ RDF was not available, so if this listing was added in the last month it will appear the next Google has this data available to them.
It is also possible that "Minty" the refresh bot actually detected these changes (links) to your site, but Googlebot (monthly) did not. If this is the case, be patience, Googlebot does tend to crawl pages the refresh bot crawls (eventually).
Google would have no need for this. I'm a DMOZ editor. Changes made by editors appear fairly quickly on the publicly accessible dmoz.org site. All Google had to do is spider the DMOZ like any other site to get the current sites in the directory. The RDF dump is not necessary.
1. As Google archive grows - current PageRank will naturally depreciate. In this case, if the bulk of your inbound links were borderline PR4's, they can now be PR3's and not indicating as backlinks.
2. Google has increased the PR threshold. Again if the bulk was below that threshold they would not be indicated.
3. A penalty, if all explanations have been explored and have been rejected as a cause, this could be the problem. This doesn't always mean "you" have done something wrong, but maybe because you have linked to someone doing something wrong.
Noting Google's explanation of PageRank -- "PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important."Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.
Ok.. I dont understand.. these links are solid PR5 though.. coming from well.. yahoo for one.. and dmoz.. theirs only 6 other sites on my page with a strong PR5.. Also.. the site I am referring to is fairly new..been open since the end of June.. as I am getting more and more links.. I am yet to link to anyone.. so cant be penalizing me for that.. just more to add to the mystery.. I know google is wrapping up its update.. last look showed 5 of 7 done.. so really getting concerned.. ok .. its not bad links, weak links or the fact of my site linking to someone bad since I dont link to anyone..
I also have had the same problem, with a 5 dropping to a 4, no Yahoo links showing and half the normal back links showing.
I just hoping next update will be better!
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Following this update I’m changing my link strategy on some sites, I have never given home page links but now I see sites with stacks of home page links getting PR of 6.
I've had 2 sites lose, both were PR6 now zero and links have vanished, so as I keep them clean I've dropped google a line asking if they could let me know why and telling them the URL's so they can have a look.
Talking about putting your head into the lions mouth :)
link:www.my-site.com gives "did not match any documents".
But using "find web pages that link to www.my-site.com" gives "link:xxxxxx:www.my-site.com did not match any documents", where xxxxxx looks like an index number.
Is this normal? Sould I expect to see these links? Or is this part of a wider problem with Goggle's indexing?
Sorry if this question is too basic, but I'm a newbie when it comes to links. :)
* The address that the link goes to isn't identical to the address you're checking (so sometimes it counts and sometimes it doesn't, depending on duplicate merging)
* The links aren't robot friendly (META nofollow, redirect via 404 or /robots.txt excluded adress, javascript, etc).
* The links dropped below PR4
* The links dropped out of Google (but may show the PR guess on the Toolbar)
* The page linking to you has the 'can inherit PR but not pass it on' penalty (even the ODP and Google Directory have had this penalty in some categories)
* People took their links away
* The page being linked to has a penalty
> stuck with till next month
I agree, tigger. PageRank reevaluation needs a full update.
There's only one thing I know that causes high pagerank links to vanish. A penalty.
Not necessary. What if your high pagerank links don't maintain their pagerank and see a drop too?
I so wish that was the case but my first thought was to check the sites I was linking to and they were still all in place, although I was unable to confirm if the sites had been down it really would be hard to believe that amount of sites would all be off line, that would be really bad luck, almost as bad as getting a PR0 :(
The Google link: search doesn't show links to or from a page with less than PR4, but the PageRank still flows through those links.
Well with the recent drop in PR that would explain it!
Thanks!
