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What to do during Google-update?

The best time to put new pages online is during the Google-update?

         

hermannleiner

9:11 pm on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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"The best time to put new pages online is during the Google Dance?

I've read that somewhere - Is that true? If yes, why?

What are the first things that you will you do when the dance starts?

Hermann

Sasquatch

8:52 pm on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)



I would personally bet that GoogleGuy wouldn't win that one. The dance is not the update. The dance is only one of the last parts of the update.

They aren't sitting on the data from the main crawl for 20 days, then hit a button and it suddenly starts the update. If that were the case it would almost certainly happen during regular business hours, pacific time.

He might have a better guess than the rest of us, but the dance starts when the prior steps are complete.

djgreg

9:32 pm on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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hm, okay I haven't looked the last weeks. I only look at www2 and 3 when the update is near.

rfgdxm1

10:13 pm on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>They aren't sitting on the data from the main crawl for 20 days, then hit a button and it suddenly starts the update. If that were the case it would almost certainly happen during regular business hours, pacific time.

While there definitely is some processing of that data gathered from the month before by the time the dance starts, it does seem that the most of the crunching of it goes on during the dance. This is why we have a dance where things are in flux. Otherwise they could just throw a switch, and that would be the final update. One thing I've noticed is that it seems that PR doesn't get fully factored in until the end of the dance. For example, on some dances I've ended up early at #1 for an important keyword search, over other sites with higher PR than me. But by the end of the dance I end up #5 or so on that keyword. It is also quite possible that inbound link text isn't fully factored in at the beginning of the dance. The early dance seems more based upon on the page factors.

Axacta

1:18 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Just kidding, just kidding. When is April Fools?<

Didn't GG provide some sort of hint similar to this around March 24, and the update surprised everybody by not starting until April 1 or 2?

Marcia

1:27 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Axacta, that's when the secret Pigeon Rank algo was first revealed. Some are just now starting to feel the effects. :)

Speaking of which, why do pigeons bob their heads? I noticed that wasn't in the paper Google published. A little short on content, I'd say.

ikbenhet1

1:35 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google got me fooled!
One of my new site is indexed, without the fresh date and i just made it a week ago.

GoogleGuy it ain't april yet...just in case.

RuglesHome

2:04 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I remember a couple of times when updates or BIG google news was proceeded by "cocky" GG posts.

Strap on your seatbelts folks and enjoyed the ride.

Axacta

2:06 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Axacta, that's when the secret Pigeon Rank algo was first revealed. Some are just now starting to feel the effects.<

Oh yeah - LOL!

But I now I'm thinking the update won't happen until the first or second - or is GG just messin' with us?

Axacta

2:12 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Speaking of which, why do pigeons bob their heads? I noticed that wasn't in the paper Google published. A little short on content, I'd say.<

Some study came out earlier this year about this. Apparently as the pigeon's body moves forward when it steps, the head moves back at the same rate, effectively keeping it still for a moment, at which time it takes sort of a still snapshot of it's surroundings. Maybe that's what the update is - a pigeon head bob.

guegledancepartner

2:20 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)



Sly,

How true...now, if you can write an effective subSCRIPTion, you can probably retire (assuming you're not already...)

progen

2:22 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It makes sense to do the crawl on or around april first so they have a fresh snapshop of the net when we're all most likely to do something interesting. That's my uneducated opinion.

Slade

2:32 am on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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But, this "something interesting" isn't necessarily what you want people to be thinking they're going to see for the time until the next update.

SlyOldDog

9:51 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Just kidding, just kidding. When is April Fools?<

It's not long until Halloween

djgreg

9:53 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Do you think update will start on Halloween?

Beachboy

9:57 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if the recent ODP problems caused a setback in the Google update.

seofan

10:03 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Whatever is happening.......waiting for the update is like having constipation. Miserable till something moves........

Harley_m

10:10 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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lol @ seofan...

to be honest - no amount of "has it started" or "when will it start" will make any difference, so there is little point...surely the time wasted on such posts would be better spent on SEO before it actually does start...

rfgdxm1

11:20 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>I wonder if the recent ODP problems caused a setback in the Google update.

Google doesn't need the ODP. At most this will just delay updating the Google directory.

jamsy

11:54 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Heres a thought

More than 500 carefully screened Researchers are ready to answer your question for as little as $2.50 -- usually within 24 hours. Your satisfaction is completely guaranteed

How about asking when the update will happen [answers.google.com ]

Rick_M

12:23 am on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The google answers response is great. However, one of the few people qualified to give an accurate answer offered it for free in the "odds" thread:

"I think the update will happen when it's ready, and we've finished our normal battery of testing and evaluation."

Still might be fun though :)

ikbenhet1

12:37 am on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Given
that the last update started on September 26th, the next one should be
starting any day now:

Answerz they don't know either.

Googleguy said that over 24hours ago.

Helpmebe1

2:55 am on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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beachboy,
Nice call! It could have something to do with ODP, or maybe google knows I am as usual, being the overworked guy I am and running late that I am still updating and need another day or two to finish so that google can then come feel all my pages.. umm I mean crawl my pages... thanks for waiting for me google.. Ill be finishing up in a day or two.. uh or three..appreciate you guys waiting for me..

Best regards as always...

CS

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