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Happy New Year.
There is relatively no change in the serps
One site I watch closely was PR5 and is now PR6 and it moved in the SERPs from #9 to #6 for the only search term which matters.
Those rankings had not moved at all since March 2004.
A major competitor for that term went from PR6 to PR5.
Most of the rest of that page is PR7 or PR8.
Wouldn't you think that the PR update comes and then sometime later it's reflected in the serps, not the other way around
From where I sit, it looks like the "real" PR update comes first and is reflected in the SERPs. Then the PR on the toolbar is updated some time after that.
Anyone else agree/disagree?
In the sector that I watch, PR has been rolled into the SERPS long before it hits the toolbar.
SteveB
That directory you link to , it shows differing PR to the toolbar. Has the toolbar been out oy Sync with the directory for a long time?
Bit of a mixed bag for us, some up, some down. Surprised at a few that went down. No changes in the Serp’s, no change in some sandboxed sites.
Let me know if anyone has experienced this, it's happened to me twice now:
I have had two brand new sites that were promoted with many directory links, and the homepage has started off with a PR of 3 or 4, while the internal pages were all PR5. (And the homepages had more quality links pointing to them).
Anyone else seen that? Any ideas why?
How can a site have 10,000 pages and no backlinks? If it's being banned, wouldn't they drop the pages?
Still getting lots of traffic, despite 0 backlinks at the update data centers.
The most ironic thing about this (for me) is that of all the sites that I have, the one with the biggest PR (6) now is the one that has been, ahem, 'sandboxed' for nearly a year now. Hardly any referrals from G, but plenty of requests for links from other webmasters.
Yes.
In this case, the Directory PR is just older than the toolbar PR. The current Directory PR first appeared a couple weeks ago.
I'm seeing most of the datacenters now showing a PR of 3 for my relatively new site, up from 2 when the site was first indexed.
There's only so many hours in a day, and only so much that can be accomplished. So, I have to divide my time between adding new content or cultivating new links.
If the PR update is, as some suggest, a quarterly event, it would seem that adding content should take priority over adding links.
Or am I just way off-base here?
Any and all opinions are much appreciated.
I have had two brand new sites that were promoted with many directory links, and the homepage has started off with a PR of 3 or 4, while the internal pages were all PR5. (And the homepages had more quality links pointing to them).
Make sure your home page PR is not being split. I just had this problem myself. For example, links were pointing to both widget.com and www.widget.com. Each of these had pagerank. I fixed this problem via redirects and mod_rewrite to make sure all the references to widget.com were directed to www.widget.com
My PR in the toolbar remains at 5 ( and I believe I can see the update from here now ). Whereas its six in the Directory and has been for some time now. Thus im quite dissapointed my toolbar PR has not gone up.
They must have updated the page rank or something. 2 sites that I monitor jumped in toolbar PageRank. One went from a 5 to a 6 and the other from 0 to 4.
Did they do the quarterly PR update today?
If the PR update is, as some suggest, a quarterly event, it would seem that adding content should take priority over adding links.
Just because the PR from new links is not yet visible on the toolbar, does not mean that it is not effective. IMO it is important to get PR up to the 4 - 5 range so that Google visits often. Content is important too, so keep working on both.
If the PR update is, as some suggest, a quarterly event, it would seem that adding content should take priority over adding links.
Content is always number one. Links are very important, as well, (so that you'll be found), but in the long-term content is what makes a site valuable for your visitors.
As stated above, the Google Directory and dmoz are showing lower PR (as is Google in general... the addurl page has gone to PR9 instead of being PR10 as it has been forever), so many people whose "best" link is from dmoz and/or the Google Directory will be seeing a PR drop. If you were a low PR6, you are likely a high PR5 now.
I only see this when backlinks update
What i mean is the indicator of the PR ( in the Dir. )for my site is showing 6, whereas the toolbar shows 5.
I cant grumble some of my other domains did well, but my " prize " site remains unchanged..not for long..
:)
David
My site's homepage can be reached with four urls.
domain.com PR2
www.domain.com PR4
www.domain.com/index.php PR4
www.domain.com/index.php?c=3 PR4
Is it better if i let it be the way it is or combine it all into www.domain.com/index.php.
If so how should it be done?
greg
PR 4 -> PR 5
PR 0 -> PR 3
So on the whole pretty good for me, small decrease on one site but increases on the other
And another site still firmly in the sandbox :)
With the drop in value of DMOZ and Google Directory pages there is a ripple effect resulting in generally lower PR for those of our pages that haven't recently acquired more links or benefitted from existing links gaining in value.
I'm hoping that when everyone returns to work there'll be a new thread with a more technical analysis from some of the experts here. It is my wild guess that there hasn't been a major shift in log scale used or other factors Google employs in the Toolbar PR calculation.
Google can't handle my text resizing function. Up in all other search engines.
What a load of Googleplop
greg
