Sandboxed Sites - Back Together?

Do they come out together or one by one?

[McMohan]

Most of the new sites that I work with are still in the sandbox. Was just curios to know, if all the sanboxed sites come out of the sandbox during one fine major updation or one by one, over the rolling updates?

That is to say, should one be checking to see if the sites are out of the sandbox regularly or only when they know there is a major Google update? :)

Thanks

Mc

[Powdork]

Try looking up a new movie and finding their official site.

I looked up sponge bob movie and was surprised to see www.spongebobmovie.com at #1. Then when I visited the page I realised it was a url rewrite of some sort from nickjr.com. The I tried 'after the sunset'. It's there, but it's been around since 2002. I'm not sure if movies are a good example.

[Vec_One]

Internetheaven, I wonder if it could have something to do with your location. Are your domains .com or co.uk? Are your topics regionally specific?

[wanna_learn]

Has GoogleGuy ever thrown his words of wisdom on this topic or he is just enjoyig the show?

[hdpt00]

I have emerged victoriously from the sandbox this afternoon. I went from infinity all the way to 664. I am sure the traffic will start rolling in now. Watch out.

[randle]

The sandbox has absolutely tortured us. Older sites do better and better, but new ones prove quite challenging.

[DerekH]

randle wrote

The sandbox has absolutely tortured us. Older sites do better and better, but new ones prove quite challenging.

Not in my case. Not at all...
Older sites spidered once every week, newer sites most days.

DerekH

[dickbaker]

I have a site with about 1400 to 1500 pages on it. I submitted it on June 14th.

Google only visited a hundred or two times each month from June through early September. Then the Gbot started coming around more often. So far this month, it's crawled 2,991 times.

Near as I can tell, every page is in the index. For the 13 main keyphrases I'm trying to rank for, the site is #25 for one keyphrase, #52 for another, #94 for another, and all the way up to #291 for the others.

By point of contrast, I have another site on the same topic that's been online for 2 1/2 years. It ranks from #1 to #8 for the very same keyphrases.

[Powdork]

Not in my case. Not at all...
Older sites spidered once every week, newer sites most days.

It's true. My sandboxed site gets spidered constantly. If only I could sell some advertising to those pesky spiders.
Does anyone have a
1. Site placed on a brand new (never registered before) domain
2. That was launched after May
3. Doing well on google.com
4. for a phrase that is competitive on google.com

If so could you share whether
1. It has a dmoz listing and whether that listing has migrated to the G directory.
2. Has a Y! Directory listing.
3. Has aggressively gotten a large volume of backlinks.

I know people are loathe to do this, but if you could sticky me a url.

[cbpayne]

I was not a huge fan of the sandbox theory as many sites I looked at that claimed to be sandboxed, just ranked poorly (and they deserved to). BUT, BUT, I put a new site up 3 months ago and its well and truely sandboxed (and it uses adsense!)

Here are the numbers:
- new domain prevously un-registered - 4 months old
- got PR2 in last update (site only had few links at time of update) - should be >PR5 now.
- moderativly competitve term - 'Widgets'
- site called 'Widgets Arena'
- ranks number one for 'Widgets Arena' (no one else has this name) and a couple of other non searched for terms
- listed in DMOZ and many other directories (not Yahoo)
- >150 links (other than DMOZ clones), many with PR>4
- 50 or so of the links are on topic
- ranks number one for allinanchor:widgets
- all my experience tells me it should rank 2nd or 3rd for Widgets
- NOT RANKED IN FIRST 1000!

If thats an effect of the sandbox, what is?

<added> - just seen Powdorks reply.
-Googebot on the site every day for lengthy periods of time
-site did migrate from DMOZ to Google Directory, but then Google directory reverted to earlier version

[dvduval]

I have managed to get one site out of the sandbox using a combination of:
1) Lots of internal pages and links
2) Multiple Links from a handful of other sites (ex. 100 links from one site)
3) Lots of single links from a large variety of domains

1 and 2 got me into the top 10 and 3 took me to #1

This is on a phrase that has 494,000 results, so not exactly a big phrase, but certainly not terribly obscure either. This site was first indexed in March.

For other sites, I am not getting sandboxed on MSNs new engine due out in January, and I have turned off most of my Google Adwords accounts, because I believe I will get nearly as much in traffic for free from MSN than I will from Google for money.

I am even thinking about advertising MSNs new search on some of my sites, so long as the Google sandbox continues to affect me, because I feel I have created some very worthwhile sites, without doing any black hat tricks, and I want users to be encouraged to use MSN in addition to Google, because they both have value to the searcher.