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I have noted more than the usual shifting of pages in and out of the SERPs for the past week or so, and of course we have seen threads about updated backlinks (FWIW).
Anyone else seeing changes?
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Any other observations of double-listings collapsing?
Nope, quite the opposite in fact. Seeing more of them.
I'm thinking I can learn from spam now.
If this stuff can do so well without any real content, I think a human trying to copy the methods of the spam, but with actual content on the pages, might do well.
My site that had been knocked down to page 19 (partly because google hates me now, partly because of all the spam in the first 10 pages) is now on page 27 of serps!
I could swallow this easier if the crap all over the first 10 pages wasn't 50% so blatantly useless and generated by a couple of people.
Some people are figuring out how to spam like it's 1999, and Google is happily making room for these sites as if they don't have a clue.
If this stuff can do so well without any real content, I think a human trying to copy the methods of the spam, but with actual content on the pages, might do well.
Alarmingly, content has minimal effect on Google positioning.
Try it for yourself...
Rediculous, and getting worse as 2004 goes on. Quality sites that used to stick together on the first couple of pages are now mixed in with a heavy filler of spam.
It's like going from the fresh squeezed juice google of old, to a thimble of juice in a glass of water.
The spam networks can't be that hard to detect? It wasn't this bad before...And I'm not blindly calling all the stuff that ranks above me spam, it's the computer generated stuff with no genuine content.
Try it for yourself... "
Well, as I removed 100% of my content from an old domain and moved it to a new one, and the old site hasn’t budged in position... I'd tend to agree.
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The question is, what organ?
The question is, what organ?
That remains a mystery, however if the situation does not improve I think we can assume it's a vital one!
We have several old websites that sit at the very top of SERPs and never move an inch, but none of our new sites stand a chance - and I for one am bored of waiting.
I sincerely hope this new update evens up the score between old and new...
I wouldn't try that stuff with my clean site, and yet they do have that stuff on their spam, and I get buried.
It almost makes me wonder if they just got lucky, as it doesn't seem like a sophisticated SEO spammer would put much faith in that kind of tag.
I agree. I have started using Y more than I used to for my own searches.Likewise here and I have trashed their useless, senseless, tool bar crap as well.
Google is crap now cause our sites are not making money from free Google traffic, so now me and all my friends are using Yahoo.
On a serious note, we are seeing many more search results but no major change in SERPS. I buy the theory mentioned about Google doing big updates on a 3 monthly basis. The 3rd is now due. At bit like Mount ST Helens, nobody really knows what is going to happen or exactly when. I also think that Google themselves don't really know what impact big algo changes will have until they start reading the threads at webmasterworld. Then if anything drastic is mentioned here, then the manually thing kicks in.
Googlebot still very busy on most of our sites.
I also think that Google themselves don't really know what impact big algo changes will have until they start reading the threads at webmasterworld.So exactly what is it that they don't know! How to make algo changes, or how to read?
One of ours dropped from 400+ incoming links to just 29, whereas all of the other sites have increased slightly.
The above is just one of many backlink comments I found in this thread. My own site's backlink (link:www.site.com) has not changed for at least four months - I check every week. It has been rock steady at 4097. Yesterday I checked and found it to be 1201.
That's quite a radical change. Someone else in this thread saw a 30% increase in backlinks.
Btw, no change in SERP.
The other day I check on the word "the" and it returned around 6 billion pages, today it returns 9.4 billion.
I have been watching that as well, last night it showed 5.8. They have added alot of pages, so it seems, my guess is they are url only, not title and description. From what I have read that means they know they are there but have deep crawled them yet to add to the SERPS.
It appears that something is going to happen soon, however I thought that last month as well...
Here is a thought maybe they reversed the algo so that all the crap sites show. At the same time they are building a new index. At some point they will bump the 2 together and remove all the sites in the old index from the new one. Then everything will be fine!
In any event my frustration is the fact that I have a site that is 10 months old and still no movement from 500th and below position in google when I'm 1 through 10 on many key words in other engines. I just want to know if google thinks the same about my site so I can move on and tweek if needed. At this point I'm afraid to do anything for fear of having good SEO and changing it the wrong way. My assumption is that I'm ok, based on rankings in other engines.
It's the bigger step ever make in the Google index!
I also tried to make a site: search when I clicked it says 1400, when I clicked 2 sec after it was 3400
