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Overall though, glad to see green on all the new pages.
PR is updating, or at least the green bar is moving for some. My 5 sites all seem to just sit at PR5, one site 4 years old the others around 12 months old. All have DMOZ listings in PR 5 catagories. 2 sites still in the "sandbox" after almost 6 months. PR 5, great when you only get traffic from MSN and Yahoo.
I have noticed that in my sector, the DMOZ directory has been cleaned up over the last few months. Many sites have been moved down to more suitable catagories. Me thinks Google is involved in the cleaning operation of DMOZ. Just a thought.
So now I am sure we can all look forward to the actual SERPS doing something major. I just can't wait much longer, seems quite insane that we promote Adsense and yet Google sends us NO Traffic on 2 of our sites.
[edited by: GodLikeLotus at 3:33 pm (utc) on Oct. 7, 2004]
Also, since being in the "sandbox", we have worked hard to get more quality links. MSN and Yahoo seem to feel that these new incoming quality links are relevant and this is why we get good traffic from them. The main problem from where I am is that Google is way behind MSN and Yahoo in updating their results. Come on Google, I remember the buzz phrase last year being "Minty Freshness" in the results, a bit of Joke in reality, or at least at present.
[edited by: GodLikeLotus at 3:50 pm (utc) on Oct. 7, 2004]
This is odd, my main page remained a PR4 but 2 of my internal pages jumped to PR5
moishe, if you haven't done so, I suggest you check your main page is only indexed once in Google. It can happen that 'www.domain.com/' or 'domain.com/' or 'www.domain.com/index.html' can get indexed separately and splits the main page PR. (If the site is the one in your profile it looks as if they are.)
Problem will arise when MSN and Yahoo decide to block all sites that have the word "googlesyndication" in them.
I do agree we are getting off topic here, but really, a green bar that goes up and down does nothing for me until the SERPS do a major shift.
Wrong type of pr. You can get pr9 via links about 'red widgets' but if your site is about 'blue mushrooms' it ain't going to help you much for your targeted keywords.I agree, but my site is about 'red widgets' and yet my new pr hasn't helped much at all in the SERPS
1) At the very moment the google startpage here in germoney shows PR0. I took a screenshot.
2) Neither the dmoz nor the google directory backlinks are listed. I also do miss a number of backlinks from good friends. I used a tool the name of which is not wanted to be posted here. Similar results with the "http://mydomain" -site:mydomain workaround.
2) As pointed out above I have three newly indexed pages linked to from my start-page, two of which got PR1 and one PR3. If this is not a bug then some other (linguistic) filters must affect the actual PR-evaluation.
- the current PR-update is an ongoing process and the results are not stable yet.
- google tends to fool SEO-experts and similar to the link:-command the toolbar does not show the results google itself is working with, as others suggested here.
- its a completely new algo which already tries to integrate the "hubs- and authorities"-aspects (I think some of those many pseudo-directories and dmoz-dupes got PR0 now) plus perhaps some new content-analysis tools.
- they started a not-ripe-yet-beta-version of a new algo to update PR.
Any new insights from the sandbox?
I use a rewrite rule in htaccess from "http//domain.com" to "http//www.domain.com". I also link back to my home page with just "/" instead of "/index.html" and try to ensure no one links to "www.mysite.com/index.php" just "www.mysite.com" (or a specific page). There are several threads about this here.
[added later]I see someone has just started one :)
Uh, uh, uh, uh (to the rythm of living the life)
I'm a new web developer, and new to webmasterworld, so I'm still trying to find my way around here and figure out what everything means. Thanks!
Is this a normal occurance...or are they switching between old and new indexes? Also during all of this I have seen no movement in the SERPS for over a month. Plenty of fresh tags but no changes.
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How can you prevent google from indexing the different versions of your index page (so that PR doesn't get divided between multiple pages)?
Meh, who cares... I keep getting really sweet keywords like "fat ass" (classic) and "teen sex" on accident (no, I don't have them anymore.. I'm smarter than to brag about a keyword/phrase I have here).
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Unfortunatly it still sounds like many folks have too many eggs in one basket, or a lot of excess time. ( otherwise you'd care less about who's PR is better than who's ) - honestly it doesn't matter in regards to most Serps... think of it as a status symbol, most of which becomes 'retired' after time.
Just my 3 cents...
PS... and do you really think most folks outside of SEO or WebmasterWorld know what a PR means anyhow? :)
[edited by: bobothecat at 8:53 pm (utc) on Oct. 7, 2004]