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Does anyone on WebmasterWorld care to speculate / guess what a link from a PR9 site would be worth in hard currency?
There's a site I'm considering with 330 outbound links and all pages appearing on it enjoying a minimum PR of 7. Being a negotiation trainer I do understand that "it's worth whatever you are willing to pay" - so let me be clare in that I'm more interested in an open market valuation.
Oh, and if you can't come up with a figure, then how much would you be willing to sell your soul to me for? (a fiver?)
It's pretty much worth having....
The fiver is pretty much worth having.
As for the link from a PR9 site?
What's a link from a PR9 site worth?
That depends on two things...
a) What is needed to beat your competitors in the SERPS
b) What is needed to convert visits to sales
Both, I humbly suggest, are independent of your offer...
The link may solve (a), but only as elegantly as taking the wheels off your car will stop it rolling away on a hill...
The link won't solve (b), and that's where the funds come to buy a link...
Tackle (b) first!
DerekH
I didn't take it up.
There's a site I'm considering with 330 outbound links and all pages appearing on it enjoying a minimum PR of 7.
Are those 330 outbound links on all the pages throughout the site, and are they showing up in the backlinks?
Another question: is it by the month, paid quarterly, or what? I've seen someone mention something about the duration being a factor to consider, since it's unknown when sites can stop passing on PR.
>>I didn't take it up.
mcavill, I believe with any expenditure the expectation of enough of a return is what would make it worthwhile.
Guess this is one step up from church Sunday school - there we weren't allowed to think about, talk about or touch the objects of our desire. So you're saying we can at least play talk but don't talk for real? ;o)
Also thx Marcia for the link from the Supporters Forum: /forum78/5243.htm - busy reading it now. At times like these it does pay to have coughed up my subs.
Marcia: The links are all on the same page, and all sites checked from this page have the PR9 site showing up in their backlinks, and pages shown on this site's PR9 page boast a PR of at least 7. The other pages on the site have other outbound links - the PR9 page I refer to has the most outbound links. (don't see why this matters, have I missed something?)
DerekH - So you're saying it ain't worth the patent of a waterproof teabag unless you are ready to convert the masses that pour in?
My competition have 5's and one has a PR6 - so it would be an overkill. Again, good point.
For any spending for advertising or exposure the sales have to come in to compensate for the expenditure and then make a profitable return on top of it.
With more links in there are more instances of anchor text, but it really is best to have links from a variety of different sites.
If linking PR 9 site is in the same industry and have good traffic you can pay some more premium ...
Hollywood
The decision was made on a number of factors about the site in question (alexa ranking, pr, unverified uniques), and the description, but the site unfortunately is of general / family interest and our widgets are targeted towards business users.
The link will likely not be renewed - in short the moral of the story is that PR and such skew the value of a link and are an incomplete measure of its worth, and it is much more valuable to view a site in terms of its traffic and how interested that traffic will be in your widgets, then in terms of some arbitrary figure which google has been and (arguably) continues to devalue.
In this case we payed $1450 and captured a number of good terms for our (semi-competitive) industry.
It's a ripper. I receive loads of traffic and PR.
It's the best thing that I have bought all year.
I would pay more for 100 PR5 links than for one PR9.
Especially now, when PR dont mean anything.
Then you hate money. One PR9 could make thousands and thousands of PR5 pages. 100 PR5 links are like the toenail of an PR9 elephant.
If PR meant anyhting, why Yahoo has PR9 and Macromedia has PR10?
Do you think more people visit Macromedia than Yahoo? Or that Macromedia ranks better than Yahoo? Or that Macromedia is better and more usefull website than Yahoo?
Just because number 9 is bigger than number 5, you still have to look at many other things. Plus, there is no guarantee that the PR will transfer, and you might end up with big money spent and no results. I had quite a few PR8s linking to one of my websites, but it still fell from PR6 to PR5 after the update.
I would pay 50 bucks for 1 PR9 and not a cent more.
Buhahah, then you have no idea what's going on
I guess you missed the part about making 1,000's of your own PR 5 pages. Which could then be linked to any page for free ;)
Anyhow, I'd pay for a PR 9 link these days just to get a deeper daily spidering.
Maybe their is a slope to the equation. I'm guessing since the popularity of Flash is growing rapidly, Macromedia is gaining links more rapidly than Yahoo!. Additionally, the flash sites may be gaining pr more quickly than non flash sites with Google's relatively recent ability to index flash pages (assuming flash sites link more to flash sites).
Yes, and therefore the number of links if spidered and counted correctly should produce something way higher than anyone else's PR.
I don't have a problem with why Macromedia has a 10, I have a problem with how anyone else has a 10, if it is really a log scale thing at that level!
$1 for my sole (not a spelling mistake), $100K for a PR9 site, $10K per month for a link from a PR9 site that generated a high PR8 page.
This is new info - if anyone knows better, then please correct me/strike me down with a bolt of lightning.
I'd be surprised at a site paying good dosh for a PR8/9, and not going to the effort of gaining tens of PR4/5 links with relevant anchor text. You just need type the following into G to get a grasp of the power of anchor text: miserable failure
First, you said it yourself, Macromedia has PR10 because lot's of websites link to them. Now, how many of these websites has PR9-10 that transfered to Macromedia? I'll tell you - none! Google still can't crawl flash sites good, which means that they will have lower PR than a normal HTML website, which makes it clear - Macromedia has PR10 not becasue they've got a few PR9s linking to them, but because they have thousands of PR4s and PR5s link to them.
Second - I will have to say it again - there is NO guarantee that the PR will transfer, thus you have no guarantee that this PR9 will make you thousands of PR5s. As I mentioned on my previous post, I had a few PR8s linking to me, and this actually made my PR fall from 6 to 5, and my inner pages from 4 to 2 (with no changes of the website), but my SERP increased. Yesterday I saw a PR4 website rank #7 out of 40,000,000 results.
Third - It would be silly to pay $10K for a PR9 link. If I had $10K ad budget I can easily move Macromedia out of #1 for the keyword "flash"!
Forth - You would pay for PR9 just to have your website visited daily by the GoogleBot? I have a PR0 website which is visited DAILY by Googlebot, Slurp and MSNbot.
Yeah, I have to admit that I am a little pissed off because thinking like that drives the prices sky high. And I will never see anybody pay $10K for a PR9 link, but speculating about it is bad enough.
How would you do that?
