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Does anyone on WebmasterWorld care to speculate / guess what a link from a PR9 site would be worth in hard currency?
There's a site I'm considering with 330 outbound links and all pages appearing on it enjoying a minimum PR of 7. Being a negotiation trainer I do understand that "it's worth whatever you are willing to pay" - so let me be clare in that I'm more interested in an open market valuation.
Oh, and if you can't come up with a figure, then how much would you be willing to sell your soul to me for? (a fiver?)
One of the sites using it has a PR7.
It has a highly competitive three keyword phase as an ancor. It ranks 11th for that phrase out of 1,840,000 results
link:domainname lists only one site - the PR9 Site.
I'd say it's well worth the £1500 a month for PR and simple because of the amount of exposure and page views from being on the front of the PR9 site (Alexa rank 2996)
First, you said it yourself, Macromedia has PR10 because lot's of websites link to them. Now, how many of these websites has PR9-10 that transfered to Macromedia? I'll tell you - none! Google still can't crawl flash sites good, which means that they will have lower PR than a normal HTML website, which makes it clear - Macromedia has PR10 not becasue they've got a few PR9s linking to them, but because they have thousands of PR4s and PR5s link to them.The pages that link to Macromedia are html. The link is there, in the html page in which the .swf file resides, so that you can go to Macromedia and download the flash plug-in, which is required to render the .swf file on your screen. If they buried it in the .swf file, those that don't have flash would never see it, and would never know how to download it.
For a small regional NFP org site, any expense beyond a low low single digit amount would potentially far outweigh the potential benefit which might arise out of a PR 9 link.
For a commerce site, monetizing a single PR 9 link into near on a quarter mil of business ... well,in a word, nice.
I know a PR9 site selling clean frontpage links for £1500 per month.
One of the sites using it has a PR7.It has a highly competitive three keyword phase as an ancor. It ranks 11th for that phrase out of 1,840,000 results
link:domainname lists only one site - the PR9 Site.
I'd personally rather have just a front page high PR link than run_of_site which is a little too obvious for my taste and could skew the balance if there aren't enough lower PR links to balance it out some.
Better a front page PR9 and many low PR links for anchor text, imho - and maybe targeted traffic. It just seems more legit looking and less obviously a "buy for PR".
Or was that another figure of speech?
Is it any wonder? Are the engineers at Google really the naive, trusting imbeciles some would hope that they are?
I think not! Let's get real and look the truth square in the eye for a change, instead of rationalizing and justifying what's going on and what everyone seems to be doing!
We did not just fall off the turnip truck, and neither did Google. ;)
I'm sure many of us are thinking on the same track when reading your post, but did you actually say anything? :-)
I mean you're alluding to something obviously, but somewhat vaguely I think. Perhaps you could go a little more in-depth?
It's called adwords. Why spend 10k on PR?
My SERP's get more clicks than adwords. Yet I still pay for the adwords, even though I have a top G spot. I don't mind whether my prospective client clicks on the adwords or the SERP - just so long as they click on my listing!
ppc and SERP listings are complimentary, not mutually exclusive. Fortunately my market is not so fiercely competitive that I need a PR9 link (though wouldn't turn it down if anyone's offering!) to get number 1 spot. A few hundred a year strategically spent on little known high PR sites is enough. The PR9 site I had in mind charges significantly less than the rates quoted here. My feel is that those of us who have good deals are not saying much in specific. Whilst those who've not yet found them are happy to voice their high rates.
You are quite closed-minded about the Internet. Lets not forget that it does not revolve around USA, UK and such. I can get PR9 for $200-$300 tops on a russian or chinese website. People over there dont get paid that much for a month of work.
Start looking at the big picture. And you have to be business savy if you want to succeed.
Really? - i am yet to see a PR 9 chinese or Russian or for that matter Indian website. Maybe someone can enlight me!
The popular sohu.com or pravda.ru or samachar.com are just PR 7's!
True. I think this is one problems with Google's PR system. Websites in many countries are not so aggressive in building their PRs. As a result, I see some of the largest companies in the non-western world, even the well-known multinationals, having PRs less than US-based sites selling - say 900,000 promotional gift items. Or even less than many personal blogs! I hope Google corrects for this.
>Really? - i am yet to see a PR 9 chinese or Russian or for that matter Indian website. Maybe someone can enlight me!
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I see a PR8 site on page 1 of that SERP that is an Indian website. Haven't been able to find a PR9, but I did beat your PR7.
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