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Unfortunately, I went to my site and the PR of my homepage had dropped from 4 to 3! Now, with two PR7 links (35 links, internal and external on the pages), shouldn't I have at least a PR of 5? I also have quite a few PR4 and PR5 links.
What's even stranger is that my homepage now has a PR3 and all my other pages are PR4 even though ALL my inbound links are to my homepage. How can a homepage of PR3 pass a PR4 to all the rest of my site?
Can anyone help me to figure this out?
In the overall circle of life, it ain't much to anyone but me as it's an info site that was ranking well before the shot of green. All the same, I admit I've done some smiling today. A tip o' the hat cause I know well it comes from payin' attention round these halls.
The only difference I can see is there has been a significant number of unsolicted inbound links showing with the link: command in the latest update. And, I know there are many more than that. Most notably from commercial news sites which have included links to my sites in the online versions of news reports. A couple months ago ABC-TV (the major national US TV network) did a report on what is the topic of my sites. The producer even contacted me including her toll free phone number to ask me a number of questions. I in fact did call her. Lots of copycat news reports followed, including a number which included a link to my sites on the online version. PR of those reports is too low to show up with the link: command, but I assume Googlebot still counts them.
But c'mon. PR7? The home page of webmasterworld.com is PR7. Brett would likely barf at the thought Google has my sites in the same league as his. ;) Either something has changed at Google, or Google PR, like life, is not fair.
Im not sure about the fairness aspect of PR, but I have serious doubts about the accuracy of Google PR as displayed by the toolbar. Maybe Google juiced the PR so everyone would feel good....
This morning I went to work, all was well, still at PR 5. Came home and now have PR0.
I am not cheating with this site in anyway. In fact I have removed cross links on all of my sites because I believe they use Whois and penalize those that cross-link their own sites.
I have also noticed that with today's rerank that sites with adult content were punished.
Anyone else with adult content get hammered today?
Also, has anyone that used Google Ad Words lost their PR?
Based on the posts in these threads and what I am seeing in my sites, it seems quite possible to me. Almost all of the sites I monitor have moved up one point in page rank.
Page rank and backlinks seem to still be fluctuating from old to new information, seems like we might be having a new style google dance going on (different data centers showing old and new data).
joined:Dec 29, 2003
will the serps jump follow or the increase is in already?
For the last year or so Google has been steadily dropping backlinks from our main site for no obvious reason (PR on backlinks not changing or anything), but last night it suddenly threw about 150 of them back in. WhooHoo!
One other thing I noticed - I thought that Google didn't count backlinks from message board sigs etc? I noticed one of our local competitors has gone from PR2 to PR5 with the only backlinks showing in Google being from within his own site and from his sig on message boards. Has this changed again?
Has anyone considered that Google has rescaled visible PR on the toolbar such that all sites are getting a boost assuming the status quo is still the same as last month?
I actually think that the toolbar PR is rescaled each time that they update it. Depending on what the scale is based on, it just might have changed more than usual this time.
Something else to consider is the possibility that the scale has remained the same, but google has added a significant number of pages, which would have added more PR to the system. Additional PR would tend to "rise to the top", as well as give extra boost to the sorts of pages that would tend to be within a few links from lots of those low level pages. If google digs deeper into mailing list archives, my site will gain a significant numbe of PR0 and PR1 links.
Given the subject of your sites, I would tend to think that there are probably a lot of buried blog entries and mailing list discussion that might point to your site. (just a guess)
Then there is the possibility that certain sites in specific categories might have picked up some significant links, which could give a big boost to all the interlinked sites in that category.
For example, the National Institute of Health (PR9) has in their "news" section on their home page, links to a bunch of articles on Alzheimers. Several of those articles have links to organizations that deal with Alzheimers. With new links like that coming in to that portion of the web, it would be very easy for every site dealing with that topic to get kicked up at least one toolbar PR point.
You will tend to compare your PR to other sites that are probably very close to you on the webgraph. You all go up at the same time, so you assume that they just changed the scale.
I'm just playing devil's advocate here. From where I sit, it does look like there was some rescaling.
What we are seeing now is a toolbar update reflecting a real PR update from about 28 March (in my estimate). Clearly Google cannot have updated PR for all sites at the same time, the process must take some time.
If Site A links to Site B and Site A gets increased PR, I assume Site B will only get the benefit if Site A received its increased PR before Site B was processed.
Anybody know if this makes sense, or have I got it wrong?
Some of the newer work has involved additional work on making adjustments (or accurate guesses) to the PR of portions of the web, but it really isn't worth worrying about.
My joy was shortlived, my page is already back to pr 6 from 7. What hurt me was when they somehow discounted older sites with older links a while back. At least that is what it seemed like.
If you really notice it, SERPs always change slighly (but a lot more than everflux) before PR and backlinks is updated.
I think the reason Google do this is to avoid yelling and screaming like before.