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After 2 month and after florida, Google penalize my sites, they had PR=4 or 5 and now they have PR=0 and you can't find them in SERPS.
Someone know how to re enter in the index in hurry? And with the normal Page rank?
Thanks.
Why googleguy said, external factors don't penalize your site?
So if i spam concurrent sites they'll get PR=0 and they'll get out Ranking?
I hope you understand what i mean.
well done google i say
So if i spam concurrent sites they'll get PR=0 and they'll get out Ranking?
Not really no.
I would also say you deserved it, but i think its not the blog spam you did that caused the pr=0 more like that you linked to this blog spam or your PR=0 has been caused by something else that just happens to be the same time you tried this blog spam.
Quite honestly I don't even look at blogs, I have trouble seing what they are worth for a good web based business.
If I want my web site to offer a professional service as part of a good business module then I will advertise or work with other official organisations etc. other then a blog. I doubt Google really scores from blog sites.
I would look at the whole of your site for any bad spamming techniques you may have implemented, Also when you admit to spamming in Blogs I doubt you will get much support also don't be surprised that others will say you deserved it. I am sure many will agree if this is your marketing strategy then it wouldn't be a surprise that you have done many other things that are banned.
Take a deep breath look at your site again make sure your clean its the only way!
[edited by: lasko at 3:12 pm (utc) on Jan. 14, 2004]
I would say this may be the answer, and not the blog spamming. One problem with the idea of penalizing for blog spamming, besides the fact someone could hose the competition that way, is that in a sense blogs are made to be spammed. While almost all would consider posting in a lot of blogs a link "barely legal naked teenagers" to drive traffic to their commercial site, people posting links to their non-commercial personal sites in blogs is all kinds of common. The latter is natural in blogs, since blogs are about people sharing their points of view.
I would also say you deserved it, but i think its not the blog spam you did that caused the pr=0 more like that you linked to this blog spam or your PR=0 has been caused by something else that just happens to be the same time you tried this blog spam.
No the sites are good, i have many sites, the sites i have posted in blogs were penalized by google other sites were not penalized because they aren't present in the blog blacklist.
Since it generally takes months for Google to recognize new links and then months more to act on spam reports I don't think enough time has gone by for your PR0 to be the result of the blog spamming.
In any event you have done something else wrong by the looks of things - and there is no quicker fix than trashing your domain and getting a new one I am sorry to say.
Im still thinking how to solve the problem.. how to reenter in google without the penalization.
Someone tell me to write to webmaster@google.com
with subject: "Reinclusion request" i don't know if can help me.
I personally think you have made a mistaken assumption about what happened. And if you are spamming blogs, you probably have tried other tricks at some point that that just happened to get caught now.
Other possibilities are that the sites that link to you got dinged, so they are no longer passing PR. Your site was down during a crawl. That the toolbar is broken in regards to your pages.
You don't say if your page is still in the index. So a search on
site:yoursite.com -asdfjkl
to see if it is even in the index.
Other possibilities are that the sites that link to you got dinged, so they are no longer passing PR. Your site was down during a crawl. That the toolbar is broken in regards to your pages.
No because the sites that pass PR pass it to other sites but didn't pass to the penalized sites.
You don't say if your page is still in the index. So a search on
site:yoursite.com -asdfjkl
to see if it is even in the index.
Few penalized sites still in the index others aren't in the index.
This is probably a stupid question. But has the page with the pr changed in anyway. e.g. was it the default index page and you changes from index.html to index.php? in short are you sure you are actually penalised.
No changes were made to the index pages.
so were/are you using spam on your homepage to boost its ranking?
I received only:
Thank you for writing to Google.
We read all of the email we receive and try to send personal responses
to each message.
This note is just to let you know that we've received your letter,
and you'll hear from us soon. We appreciate your taking the time to
contact us.
Thank you for using Google.
Regards,
The Google Team
Usually they reply after few days isn't it?
I wait from 4 days.
Here we go again.
It is funny that so many people who come to these forums claim to be SEO saints. Why else would you be here if you are not trying to rank higher. Anything you do to a web page (on or off the page) to help you rank higher is by definition SE spamming. That is why you are reading these forums.
Why else would you be here if you are not trying to rank higher. Anything you do to a web page (on or off the page) to help you rank higher is by definition SE spamming. That is why you are reading these forums.
What a pile of $#!+
<analogy>
I'd like to earn some money. I build a nice store to attract customers. Others will mug those customers on the way to the store. We are both trying to make money, and since mugging is illegal, we are both doing something illegal.
</analogy>
You don't even read what "the other side" posts, do you?
How is adding content to improve your site spamming? It makes customers happy and convieniently it makes google happy to.
By following the google guidelines, and brett's 26 steps, my site is MUCH better for the users.
If you make a change that makes it better for your users, why is it spam?
That is a crime, with a victim. Very poor analogy.
>>>>>other side
If you are talking about the Supporters Forum that is where I spend most of my time.
SEO by definition is SE gaming. Many of those spammers (or muggers as you called them) are members here. So you are flaming the same community that is helping you.
Sure Bretts guide does help your customers manage their way thru your site. But, the real reason people make all these changes and chase down all these incoming links is to increase your rankings in the SERPS, correct?
So enjoy wearing your snow white hat, I am sure it looks good on you.
>>>>>mug those customers on the way to the storeThat is a crime, with a victim. Very poor analogy.
No, it is an excellent analogy.
Spamming is committing a crime, and Google is the law. Laws are defined by the community that you are a part of, and in this case, the community that you want to be a part of is the ones listed on Google.
>>>>>other sideIf you are talking about the Supporters Forum that is where I spend most of my time.
Huh? Where did that come from?
I was talking about this
It is funny that so many people who come to these forums claim to be SEO saints.
SEO by definition is SE gaming.
Incorrect again. It is optimizing a site, taking into account that it should be designed to be search engine friendly. This also often leads to a site that is also friendlier for users. It is about making the best sites.
Spamming is SE gaming that breaks the rules set out by google. It is about ranking the best even when you know that you have an inferior site.
Many of those spammers (or muggers as you called them) are members here. So you are flaming the same community that is helping you.
While some of the spammers may have some useful advice, their spamming advice is of no help to me.
I call them like I see them. And if someone is upset with me for the analogy, then I can live with that.
Sure Bretts guide does help your customers manage their way thru your site. But, the real reason people make all these changes and chase down all these incoming links is to increase your rankings in the SERPS, correct?
There isn't anything wrong with wanting a better position! Why do you assume that there is? Google even tells you how to go about it!
Winning is not bad. Doing bad things to get there is bad.
Winning by doing good is a GOOD THING.
Do you understand the difference?
Going after incomming links has been around since before search engines. It is not bad.
Massive link trading where that is the only reason that you link to a site is bad in my opinion. I believe in freely linking. I link to good sites. I get links because others think I have a good site. I give them what they want to link to. That is how I "chase links".
So enjoy wearing your snow white hat, I am sure it looks good on you.
I will. Or was that meant to be a flame of othe members here?
>>>Huh? Where did that come from?
I am sorry I thought you were referring to the Supporters forum. Where by the way this topic (black hat/white hat) is a recuring flame-fest.
It's not like mugging someone or anything, but it IS like cheating at a card game, and if the other players catch you and kick you out, well, you DID kind of deserve that. *shrug*
