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peterinwa

3:48 am on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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When I was re-doing my HTML title and description a few months ago and posted here to get some help, I was advised that it was also important to include keywords in the text of my homepage. So I did that.

But now if I search Google and my site comes up, and then I do a Search Within Results for one of the keywords on my homepage, my site doesn't come up.

So evidently Google has not indexed the keywords included in the very minimal text on my homepage.

Any ideas?

ciml

9:30 am on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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META keywords tag? I suspect that people were thinking of using your key phrases on the page.

peterinwa

3:20 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I understand META keyword tags don't mean much anymore.

I'm saying that I put the keywords in the homepage text, but it hasn't affected search results.

WebWalla

3:59 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It may just be a matter of time. Be batient and wait for Google to re-spider and re-index your page.

peterinwa

9:06 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's been a couple of months and the changes in the title and description showed in just a day or two.

mateypeeps

9:14 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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delete

[edited by: mateypeeps at 9:18 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2003]

mateypeeps

9:16 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I suppose I am stating the obvious, but do the "keywords" also exist in the meta tag name="keywords" content="?,....." in the HEAD?

Google is said to penalise if keywords defined but are not found in the body of the text. The other way round is less obvious, but if it is in the text only, then it will carry less weight, as Google has to decide what keywords are relevent.

Mind you, I am just the tea-boy around here, just joined today, so what do I know?

peterinwa

9:24 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good point. Yes they are in both the META keyword tag and in the body of the text.

ciml

12:07 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In the body of the page, there's some text that Google doesn't see. I'd check that you didn't put it in an IFRAME, Javascript, or whatever.

peterinwa

12:23 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ouch!

The whole page is created in JS as most of it has to be with rollover code and such. So I guess I should drop in and out of JS and straight HTML so the keyword text can be in straight HTML.

Here's how it is now:

// Code
c1="<tr><td valign=top>";
c2="<img src='buttons/light_off.gif' width=17 height=17 vspace=6 border=0 ";
c3="</a></td><td class='text' width=666>";
c4="</td></tr>";

// Food Calories & Nutrition Calculator
c+=c1+"<a href='index_food.html' ";
c+="onMouseOver='chgImg(\"foodButton\",\"green\"); chgImg(\"fcncLink\",\"fcncGr\")' ";
c+="onMouseout='chgImg(\"foodButton\",\"blue\"); chgImg(\"fcncLink\",\"fcnc\")'>";
c+=c2+"name='foodButton'>";
c+=c3+"<a href='index_food.html' ";
c+="onMouseOver='chgImg(\"foodButton\",\"green\"); chgImg(\"fcncLink\",\"fcncGr\")' ";
c+="onMouseout='chgImg(\"foodButton\",\"blue\"); chgImg(\"fcncLink\",\"fcnc\")'>";
c+="<img src='links/FCnNC_b_389x25.gif' width=389 height=25 name='fcncLink' border=0></a><br>";
c+="Calculate calories and nutrition for grocery and fast food items; enter your own food items and recipes; compare foods for high or low protein, fat, carbohydrate, fiber or sodium content; track calories burned vs. calories eaten. Food lists include groceries, Atkins, Baskin-Robbins, Dunkin' Donuts, KFC, Lean Cuisine by Stouffer's, McDonald's, Nikko Sushi, Panda Express, Pizza Hut, Starbucks, Subway and Taco Bell."+c4;

The keywords are in the last paragraph you see.

Note that the links to my other pages are also coded in JS but I was told Google would find these.?

Thanks!

hobbnet

2:06 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The code for that site is ridiculously complex and the result is a rather simple looking website.

Use straight HTML and CSS and you can achieve the same look and feel with much less code.

peterinwa

6:19 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Okay. There was a purpose to the rediculousness, however.

Using:

c2="<img src='buttons/light_off.gif' width=17 height=17 vspace=6 border=0 ";

and then repeatedly inserting c2 instead of all the HTML code that makes c2 reduces the size of the page file... thereby making it load faster.

Yes?

hobbnet

6:23 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't mean to sound rude but your page seemed to load relatively slow considering its content. I think it would load faster if you just used HTML and CSS.

Krapulator

6:25 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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DOH!

If you want Google to pick any of it up, you will be well advised to follow hobbnet's advice and get rid of the js.

peterinwa

6:40 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I certainly wasn't disagreeing with the advice. Just explaining why I did it that way in the first place.

I also recently learned posting here that at least with IE JS is pretty slow at concatenation. Thus putting together a page in pieces as I was mixing JS and HTML was probably defeating my purpose in trying to make it load faster in the first place.

This is what comes from never having had a computer class and trying to pick it up on your own.

Thanks for the help.