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Want tools for Google's several advanced operators

How to find my position with the search term in the text?

         

AjiNIMC

5:50 pm on Oct 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I want to know how can I find my postion in google with the search term in the text(allintext).
Scanning first ten, then the next ten to see the position of my page is giving me pain, are there any free tools available fot it, or is there any shortcut to see where my page stands?

Help me with other operators also,
intext,allintitle,intitle,allinanchor,inanchor,allinurl,inurl.

I hope I get some shortcuts to catch up the pace.

Thanks

Aji

Marcia

3:58 am on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Even if there were such a tool, we don't post any tools here. But you don't need one. You can change your search preferences at Google to display more results per page for each search.

Click on Preferences at the top of the page for any search at Google and scroll down to Number of Results. There's a drop down list with ten as the default minimum, but you can increase that to 20, 30, 50 or 100.

Your preferences will be saved, and you can change it at any time.

AjiNIMC

4:46 am on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Even if there were such a tool, we don't post any tools here. But you don't need one. You can change your search preferences at Google to display more results per page for each search.

Marcia, what I asked was whether I can know where I stand in
intext,allintitle,intitle,allinanchor,inanchor,allinurl,inurl, after going through first 100 or 200 sites you donot feel like doing it.

If I can know where is my standing and whether I am making any improvement or not, I think this will help me a lot.

putting my words in a sentence
"How can I find my position with respect to intext(say) and keyword(say xyz)? I mean any shortcut."

Thanks
Aji

dirkz

4:17 pm on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Very easy:

(a) Search for the keyphrase.
(b) Edit the URL on the SERP by adding "&num=200".
(c) Search for your domain with your browsers text search.

The only problem you then have is to count the number of results before your domain :)

As a shortcut you can just add "&num=30". If your domain is not listed consider it as "not there".

Of course, you can tune the default settings to always return a certain amount of results per page.

wmburke

6:19 pm on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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dirkz;

What would my search phrase be to use the add-on to the SERP?

killroy

10:50 pm on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some google partners (like yahoo, but not much longer) show numbers next to the results. Those should make the counting easier. Use the large pages and the browser on page search.

SN

DerekH

12:17 am on Oct 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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killroy wrote
Some google partners (like yahoo, but not much longer) show numbers next to the results.

Try www.google.com/ie

DerekH

ogletree

3:57 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you are down that much just keep doing work until you get in the top 10. Knowing where you are at is just for entertainment it does not help you do SEO. Read WW and keep getting links and creating more pages. You will never stop doing that so just keep doing it. Just watch your log reports and you will see if you are doing better.

AjiNIMC

7:21 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for everything,

Yeah it is a waste of time to find out your ranking, specially if you are not in top 20. But I want to see how my changes are affecting my postion.

right now I am at 273 ( my target word is very very competitive, I am targeting many more, for others I am close to 100).
other statistics


allintext: not in top 600
allintitle: 400
allinanchor: 470(approx)
allinurl: not in top 600

So I want to improve in all aspects to get the #1 position. Any help will be highly appreciated.Also I want to know, why am I so down in allintext,allintitle,allinanchor, allinurl. I think I have kept all the important things in mind while designing my pages.

Thanks
Aji

DerekH

9:07 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Aji wrote
So I want to improve in all aspects to get the #1 position. Any help will be highly appreciated.Also I want to know, why am I so down in allintext,allintitle,allinanchor, allinurl. I think I have kept all the important things in mind while designing my pages.

If you have been conscientious in applying all the good things that you have read about here, the next move, I think, might be to turn things on their head and ask why your competitors are doing better than you.

For example, the allintext, where you claim to figure so badly, is easily examined by inspecting google's cache of some of those above you - the relevant text is even marked for you. Have a look at the number of instances of the text, the size of the page it sits on, and the position of the text (and whether it is wrapped in <h> headers).

With google's much trumpeted "100 factors" that affect positioning, it's not going to be a trivial job working out how to improve. On the other hand, any improvement is a help...

DerekH

wmburke

3:25 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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DerekH gives you the best advice, as far as determining what separates you from the competition... Research and imitation.

It's almost imperative that your key words/phrases appear at the top or very close to it, on all pages if possible (often it's not very practical to do so..) and give them stronger weight, e.g. strong, H or B attributes.

Alt tags for -every- image incorporating keywords and title tags w/ the same for links are things Google places a lot of importance upon, as well.

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With this thread re: advanced operators, I have a question for some of the members I see contributing to the thread..

Why, if I run "mydomain.com -site:www.mydomain.com" do I see far more inbound links to me than if I use the proverbial "link: www.mydomain.com" to check my inbounds in Google..?

.

Robert Charlton

6:43 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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my target word is very very competitive, I am targeting many more, for others I am close to 100

I think this may be the root of your problem... If the above is literally correct and you're targeting just single words, you're pretty much on a fool's errand.

I suggest you look at 2 or 3 words phrases that are commonly searched and target those.

Use the Overture tool and the Google AdWords Sandbox to get some idea of relative search frequency... and maybe run a test AdWords campaign.

Do some searching on the forums here about theme pyramids, which will provide some idea about what to target where.

Doing some searching on the forums here about theme pyramids, which will provide some idea about what to target where. These two links might help....

[webmasterworld.com...]
[searchengineworld.com...]

Alt tags for -every- image incorporating keywords and title tags w/ the same for links are things Google places a lot of importance upon, as well.

It's pretty much agreed that Google doesn't give much weight, if any, to either of these two tags.

dirkz

9:37 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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DerekH, thanks for the
www.google.com/ie

Makes counting a lot easier :)

AjiNIMC

5:31 am on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In www.google.com/ie , how can I get 100 result on the same page.

anyway I found a way to calculate my positions. Also my postion has improved.


allintext :47
allintitle:46
allinanchor:48
allinurl: not there in top 400
overall:88

Thanks webmasterworld for all help, but I want to know that
1)How can I improve my allinurl postion?
2)What are the other factors which will help me to get a better listing?

Thanks once again
Aji