Forum Moderators: open

Message Too Old, No Replies

How many incoming links are required to get a pr of 6

how many incoming links are required to get a pr 6 if my site is optimizes

         

AjiNIMC

5:05 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Hi,

Whether a 100 good sites are enough to achive a pr of 6. When i started my site, while we had jsut 11 (link)partners with normal pr we got a pr of 2(starting of sep).Now we have more than 25 partners with 2,3,4 prs. I am planning to get around 100 partners by this month end(incoming). Is this sufficient for a pr of 6. I have around 75 outgoing links, I am expecting them to add me and given them a week time.

With a pr of 6, it will be easy to get a top ranking in google.

Looking forward for a complete solution.

Aji

BigDave

6:01 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



One is all that is required. It just has to be the right one.

shrirch

7:00 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



One good link from a PR7 should do it. This used to be the case.. not sure anymore.

sidyadav

7:12 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Welcome to WebmasterWorld, AjiNIMC!

It doesn't matter how many incoming links you have, well it does, but 1 incoming link of a PR7 site can do you a PR6 , instead of getting 100 PR1-5s why not try getting a PR7 or higher incoming link?

Sid

canuck

7:41 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Of course it all depends how many other Links there are on the PR7 webpage, since each link on that webpage gets a "vote" from said webpage and part of the webpage's PR passed on.

2_much

7:59 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



You have to have at least one 7, and ideally a few other lower PR links.

DaveN

3:32 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



one good PR7, and a few from PR5 and PR4 links.

DaveN

BigDave

3:33 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



You have to have at least one 7, and ideally a few other lower PR links.

No you don't "have to" have a pr7 link to get a PR6. I had a PR5 before I had any PR5 links.

trillianjedi

3:36 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



No you don't "have to" have a pr7 link to get a PR6. I had a PR5 before I had any PR5 links.

And in fact, at the moment, lots of little ones with your keywords in the anchor text is a lot better for you than one big chunky one.

TJ

twilight47

4:55 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Big link or little links.
It's all good. :)

Bonusjump

5:11 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



>> With a pr of 6, it will be easy to get a top ranking in google.

That may not be the case; certainly not these days.

>> lots of little ones with your keywords in the anchor text is a lot better for you than one big chunky one.

TJs advice could save a lot of heartache.

Bonus

kire1971

6:24 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I take it then that additional links may actually lower your PR? If I can get a PR6 with one PR7 backlink then what does one PR7 + five PR2 backlinks bring? Certainly not a PR6? If that's the way it's calculated and implemented then Google has got some problems.

I would think that a PR 4 comprised of many varied backlinks is better than a PR6 comprised of a single backlink. Maybe that magic PR number isn't all it's cracked up to be? What matters more is not the number itself but what that number is made up of. A PR7 + five PR2 backlinks should equal more than a single PR7 backlink even though the resulting PR for your site may be lower.

trillianjedi

6:28 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



It's all good. :)

Definitely. I'm not saying that big chunky ones are bad...

TJ

Rugles

6:34 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Get as many as you can. Things change from month to month. So if you get a PR 7 and are relying on it alone and it drops to a 4 next month you are in trouble.

So, get as many as you can because things change quickly.

James_Dale

6:41 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Kire1971,
all links add to PR. It is not calculated as an average. PR7s are excellent but hard to come by.

notsosmart

7:39 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



How many incoming links are required to get a pr of 6

One hundred million-billion!

----

Seriously, you can't put a figure on this. One link on a PR7 page with few other links will give you PR6. Several PR6 links might. And so on. There are too many variables in the equation to be able to say "this is how many links you need for PRx".

It would be nice, though. :)

europeforvisitors

8:02 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)



Two things to keep in mind:

1) PageRank is calculated on a continuum but displayed in large increments. In other words, PR5 could be near 5.0 or in the 5.9 range, as I understand it. If it were 5.9 and the toolbar showed 5, a boost of 1/10 point would push you from 5 to 6. That might make you feel good, but it probably wouldn't have much effect on your search rankings and traffic.

2) PageRank is only one factor in determining search rankings--and these days, it doesn't seem to be the most important one.

For what it's worth, from personal observation:

- My site recently went from PR6 to PR7, and I haven't noticed any dramatic changes in search rankings or traffic.

- Even when my site's home page was a PR6, it was beating a PR7 direct competitor for our most important keyphrases.

kaled

8:07 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



For one of my programs, there are around 6 major players. Of these, one player is very well known for a related product - its relevant page has a PR of 8. Currently, I rate about 10th in the Serps with a PR of 5. The PR8 page doesn't make the Top 30. Most other search engines place the PR8 page at #1.

PR is all very well, but position is what counts.

Kaled.

PS
For this product, there is only really one keyword phrase worth bothering with.

Gus_R

8:58 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



My site recently went from PR6 to PR7, and I haven't noticed any dramatic changes in search rankings or traffic

because you probably had 6.99 ;)

europeforvisitors

9:24 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)



because you probably had 6.99 ;)

Yep, that's what I figured. Gotta work hard now to keeq that extra 1/100 of a point, or my self-esteem will go down the toilet. :-)

Kirby

9:39 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



And in fact, at the moment, lots of little ones with your keywords in the anchor text is a lot better for you than one big chunky one.

TJ is spot on again. I have a PR5 main page that beats PR6 pages all day long because of anchor text. This same page trails a PR4 page yet beats out a several PR5 and one PR6 page for a different search term because of anchor text.

because you probably had 6.99 ;)

see above re: anchor text

Gus_R

12:24 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



6.99 doesn't exist ;)

aleksl

12:40 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)



Was about to open similar topic, but...Situation is very similar, same basic question - how to get to PR6?

My fairly new site (less than 1 year old) has PR5. I am in a pretty narrow industry (almost any site in our niche is bilingual, so you get the drift). I've done a research of the internet situation for country which language I am using as second on my site. AS far as I know there's only 1 site there with PR8, and about 10 with PR7. So, obviously, links from them are unattainable. In US, there are about 10 sites in the niche that have PR6, the rest are - just like our site - PR5 or lower.

The puzzle of the day: how can one obtain PR6 if no PR7 pr PR8 sites are available to link from?

Things that are being considered:
(a) drammatically increasing number of pages of the site (say from 3,000 to 10,000 - you realize that no good quality content can be abtained on 7000 pages in short period of time)
(b) back-links fro sites in similar categories or realted to sub-sections of our site
(c) any ideas?

Thanks

rfgdxm1

12:47 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>You have to have at least one 7, and ideally a few other lower PR links.

The home page of both my sites are PR6. I have an internal page on one of those sites which also is PR6. I don't have any links from PR7 pages. Several strong PR6 links, and some additional lower ones, is enough for a PR6.

claus

12:52 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>> how can one obtain PR6 if no PR7 pr PR8 sites are available to link from?

You could try approaching a site that was not in your industry but in a related one. I don't know if this makes sense though.

/claus

rfgdxm1

1:24 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>You could try approaching a site that was not in your industry but in a related one. I don't know if this makes sense though.

Or you could approach an unrelated site that has a PR7 or PR8 home page and offer to buy a link. Who says a site with a PR7 home page can't accept an offer to buy a link on their home page, which they use to pay for server space?

plasma

1:56 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hm, somehow nobody with a PR10 wants to link to me :)

AjiNIMC

4:25 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Oh my God, the thoughest part in getting a top rank is "backlinks".A site with pr 7 will never agree to have a link with my site, I have some pr 5 and some pr4 back links as of now and expecting some more in the coming days,

I read somewhere that backlinks are majorly responsible for PR they had written 35%.Rest 65% is title, keyword ........ Right now after reading all this I found one thing that there is no shortcuts, my site is only 2 months old and it will take atleast 6 months to get a good rank and a good position.

Thanks for all valuable suggestions

Aji

born2drv

5:47 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I have one site that is PR6 with only 51 backlinks, and of the 51, most are internal links.

There are only 3 links over PR5 pointing to it. One is from a consumer watch site PR5, the other two are from DMOZ/Google directory (PR6 and PR7). And that category has less than 30 outbound links. That's good enough to get me PR6.

Coolkie

6:11 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member




For what it's worth, from personal observation:

- My site recently went from PR6 to PR7, and I haven't noticed any dramatic changes in search rankings or traffic.

- Even when my site's home page was a PR6, it was beating a PR7 direct competitor for our most important keyphrases.

Yes, maybe you are at 6.99 :), btw: do you get all traffic from search engines? or how many percent you get traffic from search engines?

This 62 message thread spans 3 pages: 62