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Has traffic dropped dramatically for all?

My traffic is down by 60%

         

Dave_Hawley

11:07 am on Sep 6, 2003 (gmt 0)



Looking through my stats I notice that traffic for Fri 5 Sep 2003 is down by 60%. As most of my traffic comes from Google I suspect they are having problems?

Dave

metagod

4:04 am on Sep 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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if you used the star "&9733;" then your traffic would be way up :)

aaronjf

4:33 am on Sep 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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10 of my sites have drastically increased in the past month 2 - 4X. They are in the very begining of their big season. However, I have noticed one site had dropped about 60% and can't figure out why. I have not changed anything on the site in about a month. None of my placements have changed. PR is the same. I can't figure out what is going on with it.

Oh well, I am about to lauch a completely overhauld CSS version of the site anyway. Maybe that will show me some love.

jimpoo

4:49 am on Sep 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, some of my sites traffic were suddenly increased 5 to 10 times, but one site drop 60%.
Before last week, when I search a two words search term on google, there were reported about 6 million pages results, but it has only 3 million pages now.

twilight47

11:00 pm on Sep 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've recently noticed more regional traffic than normal. Do you think they are tweaking some SERPs based on locality?

aaronjf

4:47 pm on Sep 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Today (September 13th) I have noticed a 75% drop in traffic accross all my sites. Is there a holiday today... did I miss something... Is anyone else seeing this?

Checked my sites, servers, and cart; they are all working fine.

Jakpot

9:18 pm on Sep 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Today (September 13th) I have noticed a 75% drop in traffic accross all my sites. Is there a holiday today... did I miss something... Is anyone else seeing this?

I surely am seeing it and have about the same degradation in traffic. Google is on a roll "updating"
SERPs or kicking SEO tails - take your pick. Surely all will agree they would not pick on SEO folk.

martinibuster

9:30 pm on Sep 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No change.

Every month this year has been better than the preceeding one in terms of overall visits as well as uniques and referrals per search engine. Sales have mirrored the trend.

September is shaping up to be the Mother of All Traffic Surges- across the board from Google, MSN, Yahoo, Ask Jeeves, plus the smaller search sites- again as measured by page hits and uniques. No tricks, no automation, all clean pages.

All my positions are holding steady or improving- save the odd one here and there. I've discovered more keywords and am jumping into those waters as well, so my overall traffic for September should be much higher than forecasted at current levels.

The only sites I have seen lose traffic are the 100% redesigned sites that I have not yet cleaned up.

nolen1

7:36 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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if you used the star "&9733;" then your traffic would be way up :)

What does that mean?

Namaste

8:49 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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if your traffic has dropped you should be concerned. More people than ever before are using the internet, so your traffic by natural progression should go up. And, your business is now older than before, and you should have better presence across all channels.

Check your ranking on alexa, to see if you are moving up or down. Then look at your competitors to see what is happening with them. If they are up and you down, you know you've goofed.

Don't worry about the negative impact of google's improved spidering. It is a good thing. Take the opportunity to tweak your pages and see results within 48hrs.

Good luck.

Dave_Hawley

10:18 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)



RE: Check your ranking on alexa, to see if you are moving up or down.

Don't rely on this, it is ONLY based on a VERY limited amount of data. I know of one site that gets 20-50 hits per DAY and is ranked at about 20,000

Dave

MHes

11:00 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Nolen1

"if you used the star "&9733;" then your traffic would be way up :)"

If you put that code into your title then a star shows up in the google results. Looks quite good, but google may not like you for it.

Look at [webmasterworld.com...]

Chris_D

11:01 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nolen1,

There was a thread a few weeks or so back which talked about using special characters/ symbols as 'highlights' in eg your title - symbols like the 'star' character - (solid 97433, outline 9734 etc - see a list of special characters eg [bigbaer.com...] ) It was believed that the symbols would (mistakenly) be perceived by some searchers as having been inserted by google, as an 'award' special 'pick' site, star site etc.

And so the theory went that more people would click on the link.....

Chris_D
Not a subscriber to the theory, just explaining it....

Jakpot

12:30 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Don't worry about the negative impact of google's improved spidering. It is a good thing. Take the opportunity to tweak your pages and see results within 48hrs.

Thanks for the observation. Think I'll just wait to tweak until the Googlers complete most of their tinkering with
their "algorithms".

martinibuster

2:10 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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(re: Alexa) Don't rely on this, it is ONLY based on a VERY limited amount of data.

This is true. A huge amount of the data is relevant for Korean surfers. There are many people on WW who believe in it- I'm not telling people that they should not use it.

Alexa had a sideline for selling the data as Market Research but nobody was willing to pay for analysis sourced from the toolbar so they closed up that shop.

I myself don't use it, and I discourage clients from using it. Instead I focus on my actual traffic metrics, and maintaing them on an upward trend.

Namaste

8:41 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Alexa not a good indicator? that's news to me...I doubt most of the industry will agree with you boyz

markus007

8:44 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Alexa is crap. install the toolbar, and do 50 pageviews a day with your machine and your site will be ranked in the top 15,000

jasonc

8:52 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Alexa is IE/Windows only, and more likely to be run by webmasters (hence this site's ranking, and the stupidly popular slashdot.org is only 836).

[edited by: jasonc at 8:58 pm (utc) on Sep. 14, 2003]

martinibuster

8:54 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I doubt most of the industry will agree?

According to Alexa, their pageview and traffic figures are estimates. There is nothing reliable about an estimate.

According to Alexa, a large portion of their users reside in Korea.

Even digitalghost has this to say about Alexa:

I ban Alexa's bot and ignore their stats for any practical purposes.

Read it here [webmasterworld.com], message#3.

There are many people in the industry that will agree that the Alexa toolbar is closer to a toy and about as useful as a fortune cookie.

If that is news to you, I would suggest you re-read the above mentioned thread because it's not news to a lot of people.

edavid

10:40 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had some big drops in rankings and traffic the past couple of weeks, but that corrected itself with the last update yesterday.

Combine that with typical low traffic in general for the end of summer/back to school/one last BBQ pool party and I can only hope that we're back in the high life again tomorrow.

Hardwood Guy

1:46 am on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are many people in the industry that will agree that the Alexa toolbar is closer to a toy and about as useful as a fortune cookie.

I second that! I thought it was pretty cool when I first came across it. Then I looked at where "visitors go" It was counting all my webmail box visits. Tossed that sucker fast enough.

Traffic? Up up and away the last few months thanks to the great tips from the fine folks here at Webmaster World. When's the next google update? It still lives the way I see it.

Namaste

7:05 pm on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's your choice. You can make Alexa useful, or toss away the info it provides.

Coming back to the original question. No traffic has not dropped off. And if it has dropped off, you need to relook at your search engine marketing startegy.

benc007

12:33 am on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone really tried using the star "&9733;" and significantly increased Alexa ranking? If so, how much of an increase are we looking at?

Do you think Google would penalize sites using "&9733;"?

Dave_Hawley

12:57 am on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)



Hi benc007

The star was used (by some, but not I) to make their listing stand-out on Google. Personally I think it's a waste of a keyword and looks spammy. It was agreed by most that Google would not punish for this, but perhaps prevent the star from showing and show "&9733;" It would seem that Google *might* already be doing this at times.

For me the bottom line is, the risk far out-weighs any *possible* gain.

Dave

benc007

12:40 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"For me the bottom line is, the risk far out-weighs any *possible* gain. "

Dave, I have to agree with you here. It seems Google has already started filtering out the star.

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