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I just tried it and each search I tried it just repeated its logo and search boxes all over the page which was very strange and not a single result.
What do you think does an engine like Vivisimo pose any threat to Google?
Mack.
Mind you as I say it did not work for me at all for some reason no matter what search I did.
I have always been surprized that the BBC didn't activly promote their SE using the BBC networks. For sure the BBC operates as a non advertising body, but they do run promotions for other BBC services. Although I hate the BBC running the website from my liscencing fee then making money from their INK data. (sorry ranting off topic).
I think the main reason this SE can't make it is, what income stream do they have? They could sell adverts ect but the big players have the advantage of being able to sell their database by liscencing their results to partners.
As I said before, I like the site, I just think they could do so much better with their own data.
Mack.
[edited by: mack at 10:47 am (utc) on Aug. 14, 2003]
Interesting that they quote their sources at the bottom of each result ie Sources: BBC 4, Netscape 14, MSN 5
I am impressed.
Who does the advertising for this site? I see the ads come through findwhat.com is that overture or just findwhat.com?
ADD IN - but then I did another search on the computer that worked before and it all went strange again. Something wrong somewhere.
Vivisimo is ALMOST the 'heads and shoulders' best search engine/search tool out there...
96 times out of 100 it absolute is... I mean no actual comparison (though Groups.google.com is better for discussion group searching, which in and of itself is important). I've been using Vivisimo (which was started by Carnegie Mellon people) for about 2 years, since reading about it in Yahoo Life.
Since I'm heavily involved in SEO, I regularly perform searches with both ... Vivisimo is always a much better resource for finding what I need (but with no Google toolbar, PR rank, backlinks, etc, I still use Google too).
Now, the only problem I've found is that it IS a little buggy sometimes... I think it's because of the heavy duty use of javascript and frames... there are certain times when it doesn't perform right. Also, with SearchBot Destroy Bot or whatever that thing is, it doesn't work too reliably. Finally, with higher than normal security settings in IE, it is not terrribly reliable...
Still, it's the best in my opinion....
See ya.
Tje sponsored results LOOK different (and for the life of me, I can't remember if htey were even there before)...
The results open by default in a new window... hmmm... not terribly sure how good or bad that it.. .probabaly good because I always right clicked and opened them in a new window anwyay...
And now hter'es this new search within a earch box on the left.
Peach.
See ya.
Actually, maybe the search box was there before, but because they've truncated the tree at left, I now notice it more...
anyway, they're doing something funny... just got these weird errors I've never seen before... maye they are doing some major updates and trying to compete.
Errors:
Content-Type: text/html Error occurred in Vivísimo application:
Error while locking temporary file
YUCK! Don't like it... they don't open in a new browser ,they open in the existing window... I LIKED that you could keep the results tree at left and view the pages you've found on the right...
Oh well... que cera cera.
Jordan
Do one search, site listed eleventh is also listed 20th because the "meta" is too dumb to understand that the Lycos result should be with the Netscape and MSN.
Bzzzt. Try again next year.
Jordan
The only thing who bug me is the sponsored links in the top of results. If they can put it in the right column like adwords, I will be very happy .
This newer version includes several upgrades and additions
to the interface, most of which have already been pointed
out here:
- removal of heavy duty javascript
- new actions for links, including the 'frame' link
which includes new browsing features
- 'search within the results' feature
- 'preview' supported in Mozilla
- 'details' link to statistics on metasearch retrieval
- 'show in clusters' highlights the clusters into which
a search result has been clustered
We hope you enjoy the new features, and hope that you'll
provide us with feedback on what you think by writing to
comment@vivisimo.com. We do in fact read these emails --
that's exactly where we found out about this thread.
In addition to this, we understand that there are kinks
in any new software, and would greatly appreciate
reporting of any problems you might have (with as many
details as possible) to bugs@vivisimo.com.
Thanks again for your feedback, keep coming to our site!
Peter Pawlowski
Software Engineer, Lead Linguist
Vivísimo, Inc
"Organized information
from anywhere, any time,
in any language."
I wanted to ask who are you aiming your site and SE at?
From a consumers perspective, I like your SE (when it works) but I have to be honest and say when I arrive at your home page it does not look like a Search Engine, and it does not make me want to do a search, it makes me feel uncomfortable for some reason.
It looks more to me like a corporate site, and a corporate site that does not clearly state what it is or why it is there.
Your SERP pages otoh look great.
Just some feedback.
ADD IN
and Welcome to WW!
Ok, it needs some work.
Related searches is I guess similar but this is taking that to a whole new level.
It's now on my Link Bar!
###########################################################
# vivismo.src
# Mozilla/Vivismo Clustering Search Engine Query Plug-in
# -- v0.1 --
# by MonkeeSage (Jordan Callicoat)
###########################################################
# Comment legend:
# ---------------
# "**" = No idea! :)
# "* <guess>" = Best guess
# "<description>" = What the following input item is for
###########################################################<search name="Vivismo"
description="Vivismo Search"
method="GET"
action="http://vivisimo.com/search"
queryEncoding="utf-8"
queryCharset="utf-8"># **
<input name="overRequest" value="2"># user input
<input name="query" user># engines to collate results from
<input name="v:sources" value="MSN">
<input name="v:sources" value="Netscape">
<input name="v:sources" value="Lycos">
<input name="v:sources" value="Looksmart">
<input name="v:sources" value="FindWhat"># max results
<input name="num" value="500"># allow results in all languages
<input name="language" value="all"># * show results URLs in SERPS
<input name="showURL" value="1"># * show results summaries in SERPS
<input name="showSummary" value="1"># * show open options next to result link
<input name="showOpener" value="1"># * show engine for each result
<input name="showSe" value="1"># open result link in new window
<input name="target" value="blank"># timeout in milliseconds
<input name="timeout" value="1000"># content filter off
<input name="filter" value="none"># **
<input name="x" value="43">
<input name="y" value="16"># * where search originated from?
# <input name="form" value="Settings"># * should value be true, 1 or ""?
<input name="enablejs" value="true"></search>
Have fun. :)
Jordan
Ps. I am in no way affiliated with Vivismo, I'm just a wanna-be Moz-hacker. So don't sue me or anything! :)
Pss. I think it works in Mozilla also (sidebar search) but have not confirmed.
other entries for the home page are mentions of the site from other sites and these reflect the change.
There are also listings for other pages on the site that were introduced at the same time as the home page change. So its all a mixture of old and new.
Quite like it though.
Anybody have any idea how much it is being used yet?
If though G implemented a similar function I think that would kill it off very quickly.
G has the superior results but does not really help people who do not know how to search or how to search for complicated things.
For example I was searching on mod_speling for Apache but it took me a long time to find exactly what I was looking for )see - [webmasterworld.com...] Using clusters or related searces like that is a good idea, but I think some of the major SE's need to pick it up.
Anybody have any idea how much it is being used yet?
Perplexed - I doubt it is being used very much at least not more than AV so would not worry too much, plus it is quite difficult to optimise for different SE's.
Asked whether any of the industry heavyweights have shown interest in his company, Valdes-Perez would say only that "right now we have a pilot with a very major search engine going on."
