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8:38 am on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No new page rank tho.

<edit... there is new pagerank. -fi and -cw seem to be leading the way.>

[edited by: steveb at 9:18 am (utc) on Aug. 8, 2003]

1:04 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Looks like WebmasterWorld gained 4,500 URLs. :)
1:09 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How can we see backlinks for a domain, but only those from other sites and not backlinks from the same domain.

If I'm not mistaken,

allinanchor:www.mydomain.com -site:mydomain.com
should show all the external back links to www.mydomain.com.

...Or does that show the back links having "www.mydomain.com" in the anchor text? Hmm.

[edited by: Giacomo at 1:12 pm (utc) on Aug. 8, 2003]

1:09 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Last night I did a check for
-poiuyt site:mysite.com and I was shocked to see only 20 pages listed. The site has close to 2000 pages and I swear I had close to 1700 in the index before.

The site was built in April.

Anybody else see pages drop?

Do you think the pages I saw before in the index were just freshbot/everflux?

How long till they become permanent?

1:15 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wouldn't this classify as a classic update if those features showed up at www2 and 3?

Instead, it's only happening at -gv right now.

They are new backlinks definitely. Not old data at all. Serps don't seem different there though.

Maybe google just tests the new secret sauce on -gv first before unleashing the real dance in a little while.

Dunnthat

1:16 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Or does that show the back links having "www.mydomain.com" in the anchor text? Hmm.

Yes.
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1:23 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Oops... Sorry. <:)
1:26 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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dunnthat...check the cw center..its showing the new links as well so I would guess that its not just testing but migration - but then Im usually wrong
1:27 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wouldn't this classify as a classic update if those features showed up at www2 and 3?

Sure, except that I have yet to see a single shift in rankings between www and www-cw. ;)

The reported number of results is different, but the actual SERPs look the same to me.

Anyone?

1:30 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wondering if anyone else is seeing internal links on their sites as part of the dissapearing links this morning? I noticed all of mine went away - and although I dont believe the PR4 to be shown in backlinks was true anymore, many of them were at least that.
1:35 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well if the links are different, the SERPS MUST be different somewhere. Just maybe not at the top..lol

1500 links in the old - numbers 1-1490 may be the same

1480 links in the new - SOMETHING is gonna be different...maybe at the bottom but SOMEWHERE.

Maybe first the links change, then the formula for SERPS gets applied to the new link count?

I dunno

Dunnthat

1:37 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Also wondering if anyone has seen fresh cache dates in the past 4 days or so. In the keyword phrases I'm checking, there have been no fresh dates in at least 4 days...just curious.
1:41 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I want to know what external sites are linked to a site. How can i do it? For e.g., if i want to know what external sites are linked from google, what search will do that?
Thanks
1:46 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Weird - one of my customers' sites had 10 inbound links and now it shows 486 yet the PR is still the same. And therse are all quality links... Any ideas?
1:49 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ITcameleon, check your PR on -cw, mine increased a notch.
1:51 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> Well if the links are different, the SERPS MUST be different somewhere. Just maybe not at the top..lol

I can confirm that: I'm seeing different results/rankings on www-cw --not in the top 10, though.

1:57 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been cached on August 5 - server-generated timestamp on page in G cache.

Don't see many ranking changes at fi cw or gv for top keywords. Gained [+1] in toolbar PR for non-www index page, with-www index page stays at the same level.

Backlinks seem to have taken one giant step in the wrong direction. Using "www.example.com" as querystring (all other approaches are futile) i'm now 50% below expected (a few weeks back this was 20%).

The "link:" command is definitively not any good in my case (shows around 0.01% - 0.7% of the expected number), neither is allinanchor (shows around 0.05% - 0.1%).

/claus

2:05 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i can confirm the following things happening to my site on -cw datacenter.

1. increase in backlinks.
2. increase in PR by 2 points.
3. increase in the serps

2:08 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know how to check my backlinks on other data centers...but how can I check what my page rank is on the other data centers?
2:11 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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there is an excellent tool at www.seochat.com -> [googledance.seochat.com...]

or you can simply type www-cw.google.com and do a link: command.

2:16 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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warrenk

i'm not sure if it is allowed to tell how to check PR on other datacenters on this board or not. if it is, i'll happily share. but there are so many rules here, that i will keep quiet unless told otherwise that it is ok.

2:18 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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JonR28 - you didn't understand the question: warrenk knew how to check backlinks and wanted to learn how to check PR! Just sent him a sticky so no need to explain it again ;-)

[edited by: ITcameleon at 2:30 pm (utc) on Aug. 8, 2003]

2:28 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I remembered reading a post which gave a tip on how to view the latest PR from other datacenters during the PR dance.

I think it had to do something with windows registry or host file and adding some domain name and IP adress.

If anyone has any idea, please let me know..

A related thread would be this: [webmasterworld.com...]

2:42 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ok, i'll take the chance, and if this post gets deleted, that's ok. here's one way to check pr on other datacenters (though there are other ways).

- install the Google Toolbar
- clear your cache to be sure
- go to your site that you need fresh PR from
- make sure the Google Toolbar is there
- ctrl-reload the page to be sure
- go to temporary internet files
- look for the cached file with a very long url in Temporary Internet folder (see below for example)
- it contains the site you've visited for PR
- open it in a new window
- change the ip address to www-cw.google.com (or whichever datacenter you want to check)

example of the url:

h*ttp://216.239.33.100/search?client=navclient-auto&googleip=O;216.239.33.100;266&ch=1234567890&features=Rank&q=info:http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoursite%2Ecom

2:46 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)



Wierd. I'm seeing backlinks to the home page ...from the home page....

EquityMind

2:48 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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PR on DCs, see msg #9 here: [webmasterworld.com...]

added (afaik):

216.239.51.100 : www-ab
216.239.57.100 : www-cw
216.239.39.100 : www-dc
216.239.33.100 : www-ex
216.239.41.100 : www-fi
216.239.59.100 : www-gv
216.239.53.100 : www-in
216.239.35.100 : www-sj
216.239.37.100 : www-va
216.239.55.100 : www-zu

/claus


I see dazzlindonna just posted the same directions as the link above :)

[edited by: claus at 2:58 pm (utc) on Aug. 8, 2003]

2:57 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have no idea why I'm worried the PR didn't increase - the site is showing nr 2 for the keyword we were optimizing it for ;-) The customer shouldn't care for the PR (me neither). It's some kind of PR frenzy ;-) yet I can do nothing about it - keep checking all the sites to see if there are any changes... and there are some minor increases in a few cases.
3:06 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Cool to have the backlinks in, but top of the list for my backlinks is a PR7 link that finished on July 1st. My site has also been jumping in and out of much higher SERPS, so I guess it's all still part of a larger transitional process. Nice to have them updated again, and even with the slightly old links they are much more accurate and appropriate than before. Cool.

Jeremy

3:11 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I dont see any change in page counts, but the backlinks have changed, so thats good news, but is it a update or just a small changes.

I would like to see a update again, its allways some great times.

zeus

3:15 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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for my site backlinks increased from 52 to 213 but pr dropped from 5 to 3 is it time to worry
3:15 pm on Aug 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hey Guys....I have been a PR 3 for several months and about 2 weeks ago secured one pr 8 link and six pr 6 links...this is cached by google to have been picked up on JULY 31...yet my pr today on all datacenters is still a 3...it seems to me that this would have definately bumped me up in pr....any ideas?
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