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Unchanged page moved from 1 to 78 on different fresh crawls - it did move back to 1 again, and now it is back at 78.
This seems to have been going on since a week or so before Esmerelda
Stop watching , it'll drive you nuts.
From 1 to 79 with flux alone - that is a lot of sites for a relativiely uncompetitive keywords I have been looking at.
and dont forget that these page were fresh tagged pages aswell - and then it moves back to number 1 with the next fresh crawl/update.
I'm seeing similar results to that now when I search main google (the shortly-after-fresh-but-pre-spam-removal results)...
it moves back to number 1 with the next fresh crawl/update.
You mean that it goes up on one fresh, then down on the next?
[edited by: mipapage at 3:36 pm (utc) on June 24, 2003]
Unless many of the pages ahead of you have no fresh tag. Then, you simply dropped.
I haven’t made any changes to the site and once the date goes away I go right back up.
Make some changes and report back here. :)
There is more to it than someone changed their page.
How do you account for the sites that did not change their page.
Flux is normal but from #1 to gone is not, especially if your #1 for the anchor text even after you gone.
Exactly - goes up one fresh down the next fresh. (Ok - People can throw everflux at me - but I have not seen anything like that before)
Just because you didn't see a fresh date for a site doesn't mean it wasn't changed. I've seen the cache for my own site changed but never saw a fresh date. I may have missed it as I don't watch constantly - anymore ;)
My suggestion is that trying to figure out what caused a fresh dated page to move during this new G will only get you spinning in an endless loop :)
Now, if your site is gone during a fresh cycle only to return afterwards, then that might be an indication of bad things to follow and I'd be looking real hard at the site.
Main site at #1, and a pointer page at #2. Every 10 to 12 days or so, the pointer page moves down to #3 or #4 (once down to #14 or so), whilst the main site moves down to #60 or #64. This has happened about 6 times in the last couple of months. The drop lasts a couple of days, and several times occurred when everything else was fresh tagged up except for the site and pointer page. Both pages are called index.html, with the main site one being full of content, and the pointer page one having one paragraph of text and one link to the main site.
Whenever I get a fresh date my ranking for my two key search terms goes from positions 2 and 3 to pages 4 and 5.
I wont let ANYTHING get in the way of my Google rankings.
;)
#1 - #463 every 10 minutes or so
Arghh! I think I'll come back in a week (yeah right)
I can't see any difference customdy.
Arghh! I think I'll come back in a week (yeah right)
Yeah, I'm really gonna show Google that I'm chilled out about this update... I'm gonna set my alarm clock to only wake me up every hour insted of every 1/2 hour!
Also i think i've changed my index.html to index.htm - But assume this doesn't make any difference if the root domain is only indexed.
-Any ideas?
From 1 to 78 to 1 again just like that :) (feel like Tommy Cooper then - just like that - lol - happy days)
I feel like Google is playing a game of she loves me, she loves me not :)
I only know how recently google has crawled by looking at my logs.
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www.red-widgets-r-us.co.uk/~large/hairy.html - 24k - 25 Jun 2003 - Cached - Similar pages
Fresh tagged! Happens a day after Google visits, and lasts about 36 hours.
1) Google is moving toward a moving update
2) Freshbot has assumed some (all) of the responsibilities of deepbot
3) Google is implementing new spam filters
4) Many things will take time to sort out
Here's what we seem to have observed from other people and each person's description of their site(s) on this board:
a) The index pages of some sites appear to be downgraded in the results for some keywords
b) Many people who experiece this report that the disappearance occurs just after freshbot crawls the site
c) This appears to happen more on sites that are newer (less than 2 years) or sites with a PR of 5 or less
In terms of what could be happening, people on this board have postulated:
i) glitch in google that has to do with their move to the rolling update
ii) overly zealous spam filters that seem to be implemented after freshbot data and ensnare legitimate, non-spam sites
iii) major algorithim change
iv) Google attempting to stabilize things after a major change / upgrade
2) Freshbot has assumed some (all) of the responsibilities of deepbot
3) Google is implementing new spam filters
4) Many things will take time to sort out
Here's what we seem to have observed from>>
Not sure I agree with all of these... how about
1) Google is broken
BINGO! Give the man a cigar. Simple and sufficient answer.
I am beginning to wonder if Google is still testing the new indexes - and is prepared to use the largest test bed it can get its hands on - everyone.
By the way - back to 78 :(
