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2_much

4:53 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So I built 10 more sites and got another 100 links.

rfgdxm1

5:09 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ahh...spamming. One way to try and stay ahead.

Yidaki

5:10 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well done, 2_much. Yah, you yahoo dinos know how to survive. ;)

<added>r2d2, what is spamming? ;)</added>

2_much

8:33 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's called Demographic Target Marketing in my book.

If I am selling golf clubs, there are different types of buyers. There are the golf pros, retired men who play golf for fun, young men who've just taken up golf, businessmen who have business golf appointments, women who love golf, couples who play golf together, children learning to play golf, etc. You get the picture.

Each one of these target groups will respond to a different presentation - the businessmen will want the site to look sleek, the retired men will want it very very simple, the women will like it with pastel colors, the children will want it playful and toy-like.

So we build sites for them. Tailored for their needs.

I'm a big believer in action, taking control, not being a victim. Instead of sitting around trying to beat a dead horse, I start breeding baby horses.

Anyways..what do you do? How do you react to this type of situation?

mfishy

8:38 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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2_much - I'm with you. Take control as much as possible.

I keep adding pages and sites always. More nets...more fish. Also, I optimize and campaign for links differently for each site as well. Who knows what's going on at Google but I figure by the end of summer this Dominic backdate will have gone away and GG is bound to reward at least some of my sites!

Nick_W

8:45 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the lesson 2_much, you're a class act and this leson is something everyone can beefit from! ;)

Nick

Birdman

8:48 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Very good! Funny, I, almost always, go right past all the threads with that subject line. Glad I decided to read this one.

Yidaki

8:50 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Anyways..what do you do? How do you react to this type of situation?

Hmmm.. never been in such a situation ... would do the same after reading your one liner and your explanation of it! ;)

Seattle_SEM

8:59 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I love it, 2_much!

I expected too see the similar "what do I do, I don't undertand!" - but you hit the nail right on the head.

Screw what you can't control - focus on what you can.

worker

8:59 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I curl up in the fetal position and rock back and forth. When I take a moment to stop sucking my thumb, I eat lots and lots of ice cream.

heini

9:03 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Post of the month!

Seattle_SEM

9:17 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Admin/Mod should change the title/description of this thread to give it the exposure it deserves.

Yidaki

9:21 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Admin/Mod should change the title/description of this thread to give it the exposure it deserves.

he, he, he, i'm certain it allready gets the best possible exposure ... which might have been the idea behind the title. ;)

Powdork

9:32 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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And when do you expect these 10 sites to make it into Google? Is your plan to pay for traffic for all these new sites. Does you womens golf page offer womens clubs (different content) or are you just redressing the same content. Is quality important anymore, or is it all about quantity.
If I build a site it is for the long run, with the expectation that it will outlast Google, not something I abandon when it loses Google's favor.
In short, I would look elsewhere to make the site profitable while I ironed out the problems with Google.

heini

9:44 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> I would look elsewhere to make the site profitable while I ironed out the problems with Google

Cool, now we have 2 great strategies to deal with a situation like this :)

Marcia

9:55 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Fabulous thead here!

Moving right along with the plan, do we think we need all different photos, just file names changed, different shopping cart, different IP, different whois, etc. - or do some prefer doing it like an economy package - same photos, cart, etc. - just innovative design and unique content developed to enrich the lives of the surfers.

There's probably something to be said for both approaches.

Thank you so_much, 2_much.

Alphawolf

3:39 am on Jun 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Moving right along with the plan, do we think we need all different photos, just file names changed, different shopping cart, different IP, different whois, etc. - or do some prefer doing it like an economy package - same photos, cart, etc. - just innovative design and unique content developed to enrich the lives of the surfers.

There's probably something to be said for both approaches.

Without too much effort one could still use the same cart, and a basic .dwt for static pages using CSS and different photos to drastically change the look.

I feel different branding is very valid for websites. Look at automobiles. Same important guts go into Ford, Lincoln, Mercury and now Mazda (limited cases)...but they change the window dressing and features and market the vehicles to the demographic they want to sell to.

Why should websites be any different?

If it were me, I would register domain via proxy and make sure content was unique between sites.

It naturally should be different if one is targetting different people.

Regards,

AW

2_much

6:04 am on Jun 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Unique sites. Lots of content and information. Different color and appearance. Same products :)

Domains can easily link to each other: it's legitimate linkage.

Sometimes different IP's and WHOIS, other times the same.

It's all about being creative. Taking control. Dreaming up new schemes. Having fun while you're at it.

I know this may be a problem for people working with 1 site and trying to brand that site. A penalty there could be a problem, and in that case it may be a good idea to try and get the site re-listed.

But even if you have 1 site that you're trying to brand, why not make keyword doorway sites to promote your branding domain? That way, if that domain gets killed, it'll always have traffic coming through the satellite keyword sites.

Just a few ideas. Think about it - there are so many productive, active ways to move forward.

1milehgh80210

6:39 am on Jun 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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wow
>So I built 10 more sites and got another 100 links. <

webpages breed like rabbits
soon google will have 6,000,000,000 pages to index,
then 12 billion

buy stock in server mfg. cos.

percentages

7:50 am on Jun 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>So I built 10 more sites and got another 100 links.

Yeah, cool plan.

I have a theory that deepcrawler hasn't been seen because it knows it is going to encounter at least 2 billion more web pages on its next outing.

Google it is time to rethink your strategy!

Brett_Tabke

10:40 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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lmao Percentages - that's absolutely right. There are more junk domains going up right now that I've ever encountered.

Start walking down some of the "big money" ($50k a month off one link) keywords and duplicate domains are everywhere. It's no wonder G did so much work with cross linking filters.

Marcia

10:46 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>domains going up right now

I've only bought 2 so far, but that's because I'm slow. I'll have to start hanging around the scripting forum and learn PHP.