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Does Google Really Make A Difference

For Free Search Does Google Really Make Or Break Your Business?

         

JoeHouse

2:32 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Would love to get some feedback on this. As far as free traffic goes does Google really make all the difference between success or failure for internet businesses? Assuming of course that you have a good product to market?

I ask this question because it appears that all these other free search engines really do not give you the necessary traffic that is needed to put you over the top.

Has anyone else notice this? Google to me appears still to be king!

mfishy

2:36 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, in terms of search engine traffic Google is pretty much everything, especially since they feed Yahoo and AOL.

This is why there is so much action/worrying in this forum. Know one knows or even cares if MSN is working.

SlowMove

2:38 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's almost a monopoly.

Chicago

2:39 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google to me appears still to be king!

ummm, yea. no questions asked.

<sidebar> Google + Google Adwords + Overture + Postion Tech (INK, FAST, ASK) + Looksmart + ODP are the must haves for any business, budget permitting. Next is Yahoo directory, Business.com and on from there....

We call Google - G - on this board. Cause we are too sensitive to call it God.

[edited by: Chicago at 2:42 am (utc) on June 9, 2003]

JoeHouse

2:42 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can someone out there give me a real life success story regarding google traffic for their internet business? The before and after story? Really curious!

Chris_R

2:42 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know people in non internet businesses (no shopping carts and existed before the internet - and have competitors not on the internet) that get a good deal of business from google.

Google has the POWER to make or break you. Usually they are pretty fair. Thank god altavista isn't near the top anymore. They were kind of like satan.

mfishy

2:45 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<<Can someone out there give me a real life success story regarding google traffic for their internet business? The before and after story? Really curious!>>

I would guess that just about everyone here could give you that story. If you do well in Google the traffic can be staggering. WIth just about anyhting to sell you will do alright. On the other hand, if all your revenue is derived from Google/search engines, put some money aside for a rainy day. For some, it started pouring with Dominic :)

typein

2:46 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google .. is the 'Bible' of the net .. the yard stick by which all websites are measured .. :)

Chicago

2:48 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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JoeHouse, I am sure your question is appreciated by many, the fact of the matter is that around this board there are tens of thousands of success stories regarding traffic from G.

One should not question the importance of G. It may be the biggest mistake you ever made relative to the internet and your business.

I for one can share new successes with you *everyday*...come join us;)

[edited by: Chicago at 2:50 am (utc) on June 9, 2003]

SlowMove

2:49 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd like to see more competition. They must have some really good programmers if Microsoft and other companies can't compete against them.

JoeHouse

3:02 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Chicago

Please understand, I have nothing but the utmost respect for Google! I am a firm believer in Google and its great power. It's just that because of all the google changes this past update I have not had the pleasure yet to experience it! I was trying to get an understanding once indexed, what I can expect, that's all.

Chicago

3:08 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, Welcome JoeHouse. You have certainly turned to the right place in Webmasterworld.

Thousands of us are waiting for recent indexes to be pulled into the live G results. Sorry that this is your initial experience. What we are seeing is an anamoly of sorts.

You will find that ranking high on G has tremendous benefits depending upon the search volume for the keywords you are targeting and the nature of your business/site.

Much of the discussion here is based upon how to improve rankings as we *all* understand that G can have significant benefit.

Good luck and again, welcome.

Justin

jk3210

3:23 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Can someone out there give me a real life success story regarding google traffic for their internet business?<<

(edited)
On second thought let me put it this way:

Before I ranked well in Google, I was paying out 95%+ of my revenue for PPC. Now I put it all under my mattress.

[edited by: jk3210 at 3:38 am (utc) on June 9, 2003]

jeyval

3:29 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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""I was trying to get an understanding once indexed, what I can expect, that's all.""

But getting indexed is not only not enough but even useless unless you make it to the very first page for keywords that are searched for in enough numbers

deanril

3:43 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Simply put:

Search Engines bring you customers.

Google OWNS 80% of all search engines.

Does google really make a difference.

Answer YES, google will Bring or not Bring 80% of Free Search traffic.

Take a guy selling $10 widgets, and he sells 30 a day. He makes a living off the site, yet cant really afford to advertise yet. Google brings 80% of his traffic.

Now google says, we are going to have some fun and games.
Now the guy cant pay his mortgage.......

Tough cookies say 9 outa 10 webmasterworld members, he shoulda, coulda , woulda done this or that.

Fact remains, guy cant pay mortgage because of someones decission. How many guys are out there right now? Most here say Google cant effect the Economy or unemployemt rates or anything for that matter.....

I guess Google wins because Google has convinced 9 outa 10 here that you must buy adwords. These same people believe google is perfect and does everything for the good. The good of who? Google....

SlowMove

3:45 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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And it helps if the keywords are used by people that want to spend money. Not all searchers want to spend money.

Dolemite

3:47 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Does Google Really Make Or Break Your Business?

The secret is to help it make your business without allowing it to potentially break it.

nirelan

3:51 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well a good business dosent need to rely on Google. If your business offers somthing that people want they will find it.

typein

3:54 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I dunno if it's relevent .. i think it is.

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chiyo

4:59 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Fact remains, guy cant pay mortgage because of someones decission<<

Fact: guy cant pay mortage because of HIS decision

People make decisions all the time that affect your life. Key is to predict, influence and manage them as as much as you can. Google is one where the options are very limited.

deanril

5:14 am on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok thats your opinion. I will say this, If google shows results for me, thats a bonus for me and my business, Im covered Im not relying on google one bit.

However Google and its 80% have a responsibility weather google likes it or not.

Google maps the web, google maps the web for 80% of the world. Google makes money because of this, but google because it makes money and effects so many people, has a responsibility to map it correctly.

Im not sure but lets say CNN had 80% of the news market, (prolly 30% who knows), but lets say they had 80%.

Now a huge disaster happened, Tital wave flooded Hawaii, millions dead. CNN decides its better to cover a cat stuck in a tree in little foot north dakota.

CNN has a public obligation weather it likes it or not to cover that disaster.

Google has a obligation to map the internet correctly. Because it owns 80% this obligation is huge. Google could care less about this obligation obviously. They would rather test live...... Of course nobody see's this Im just an idiot....