how long to get listed on google?

for how long should i sit patient before worrying

[leanweb]

i submitted a site to google about a month ago and am still waiting for it to get spidered. the page that i submitted (home page) got included in google pretty quickly, within days, but the whole of the site didnt get spidered. google says there is not need to submit pages individually, so i didnt. i know this takes time, what i'm curious about is, how much time?

i also have another site that has been up for several years, never got a pr (grey bar in goole toolbar) although it did get spidered. it ranks reasonably well on google directory, though. what gives? or better yet, what should i do?

thanks in advance!
leanweb

[edited by: heini at 1:43 pm (utc) on June 6, 2003]
[edit reason] please don't use urls, thank you! [/edit]

[humpingdan]

try getting rid of ur link to ur website first on ur post!
its not clever and nobody else does it shift it

[takagi]

Hi leanweb, welcome to WebmasterWorld.

It looks you need links to your site. Your homepage was spidered (cache is from June 2nd) because you submitted it to Google. But Google will remove it from their index if there are no links to your site. AllTheWeb doesn't even know it exists and shows no links.

[currybet]

humpingdan >> please don't use urls, thank you! is much more polite than shift it to new members of the community :-)

it takes a while for google to spider the site deeply, and if you read a bit more around the forum and the forum charter, you'll see that there is currently a flux in the way google is spidering and indexing.

make sure you have your internal content linked to with descriptive anchor text, and try and attract some inbound links to your site.

[ncsuk]

You may want to try putting your URL in your profile here because it will get picked up :)

[leanweb]

thanks for the welcome!

this is a great resource, i've been reading it for a while, learned a lot.

i've submitted to most major search engine, its just they are apparently even slower than google ;)

i do have some links to my site, some from sites that are listed (albeit some not ranked) on google.

so my best guess its just a matter of time, and i just am curious what is the mean time for google to cycle for a site?

[takagi]

> but the whole of the site didnt get spidered
Some of the links have a very long string of letters and digits like "/index/50E7022AC185480585256D2C007F97C7". This suggests some session ID. That could cause some problems for indexing the sub pages.

> what is the mean time for google to cycle for a site?
The update cycle used to be 4 to 5 weeks. Since the Dominic update don't know anymore. First signs of that update were in the first days of May. But your guess is as good as mine.

Since your site is an affiliate, I think ODP cannot help you.

[leanweb]

takagi,

long digits are simply GUIDs of pages. they are NOT session ids. site is database driven. for the technology behind this site we decided not to follow rather common hierarchical approach as these days content doesnt like to fall into hierarchies. but i digress.

there is another site that i built using similar technology is indexed and ranked by google pr5. so i really dont think those long digits in URL is a problem.

Since your site is an affiliate, I think ODP cannot help you.

why wouldnt ODP take my site?! i did submit, was wondering why i havent heard from them..

[takagi]

In the ODP guidelines for 'Site Selection Criteria' there is a section about affiliate [dmoz.org] sites. Those sites are not added because of the

mirrored and duplicated content

[leanweb]

those bastards ;)

but seriously, the presentation is completely different and there are/will be more substantial differences. oh well, web audience wasnt to be my primary target anyhow...

thanks, takagi for your input!
leanweb