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Newer site, hoping i'm not google banned

PR bar went grey

         

davester28

7:11 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I originally submitted my url to google in April. From reading in these groups, it appears that I had a fresh-bot listing, my url would search, and get my main page.

2 weeks ago it disappeared from the listings and my PR bar went grey. I read the posts in these groups and realized that they were going through a transition period at google.

But now that there has been a new deep crawl since, and it seems google is getting back to normal, I'm wondering why I am still grey barred, with no results.

I certainly never did anything intentional to get banned. (But I am a newbie, and a little worried). Could google have lost me somewhere between old and new servers?

The jist of the question I guess is "Should I be relisted by now, or are they still really behind on things?"

AthlonInside

7:12 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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what's your original pr?

davester28

7:17 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not sure actually. When I googled the term "banned by google" I read threads that mentioned the google toolbar as a way of determining if you've been banned. So I only installed google toolbar after I disappeared from Google.

Newbie please remember, and my apologies...

As a side note, when I disappeared, it didn't happen all at once. I was on one day, off the next, etc.. for a few days. HTH, and TIA

AthlonInside

7:22 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Then I am quite certain that your site isn't banned. If you have a new site and fresh bot gets it, you EARN some free impression before the real update. A site will only stay all the time in the index if it goes through a real update, which occured once a month. The cycle is deep crawl bot get your sites, around 4 weeks later they put your site in the new index (update).

You should now learn more about update and deep crawl. Try searching the forum. You can get answers faster then posting because they are widely available.

davester28

7:28 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But I thought the last deep crawl was mid May? This is what's confusing me, (why I haven't been deep crawled).

My host company doesn't give server logs with my package, so I can't check, but I'm basically sure that I haven't been deep crawled. I was reading the posts as people were saying "crawl is happening", so I've been waiting patiently, but thought maybe I should ask you gurus.

TIA

PollyG

7:35 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I would not start panicking if I were you! I have been in the same situation and was listed in April, disappeared for a week and went grey bar. I have re-appeared yesterday after adding some new content and getting a few more links and getting Freshbotted - I'm not expecting it to stick until there is a deepcrawl (still grey barred - but what the hey!)

Try not to worry, I think us April newbies may have a longer wait than is usual, but I doubt if you have been banned.

Keep you chin up!

Polly

AthlonInside

7:39 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Stick with the forum to wait until someone shout 'Deep Crawl on My Site!' Then check your site, and your should see deep bot. Then wait another few weeks until someone shout 'MiMiNic Update!' then you can search for yoursite in www3.google.com and you are there.

davester28

7:47 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks guys!

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Davester

Nelson

9:26 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Davester and all,

Interesting stuff. I guess I am in a similar position.

I launched a new site early in April and it has been crawled many times. I never did get any "green-bar" page rank though. It's still grey. I have a clean site, no reason I can figure why it might be penalized or banned.

I checked my stats and Googlebots pays me a visit almost every day or every second day (sometimes only a one-page hit and other days hitting all the pages).

My rankings on key words go up and down, but I appear on very few.

I'm hoping that its just a matter of time. It's been about 6 weeks with a grey bar. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do to find out for sure if my site is penalized or banned? Is there anyone we can email at Google to check so I can correct anything that may be holding my site back?

Nelson

steve128

9:43 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)



"It's been about 6 weeks with a grey bar. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do to find out for sure if my site is penalized or banned? "

Try searching for a very niche phrase,4/5/6 words etc, that appear somewhere on one of your pages.
eg
widgets your telephone number, or email address (as long as they are on a page)

You should show, if not it doesn't mean you are banned, but if you do show..no problem you are in the index
You can also try searching for your url, but leave out the www

Again that is not a sure-fire way, but in will prove you are not banned if your site shows.

steveb

10:13 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<macro>

Any page put up after February 15 or so has no real pagerank and will likely/often/usually show as PR0 or a grey bar. It means nothing, and certainly is not a sign of a penalty.

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steveb

10:17 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Additionally any site put up after Feb 15 should expect to be moving in and out of the results via the ongoing everflux.

People with new sites need to understand that nothing happening with their sites really means anything. They aren't in the "permanent"/deepcrawled index and won't be (likely) for another month. There is nothing you can do about it, no matter how many times people post the same things here.

kaled

11:57 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My experience having added to my site that went live six months ago is that it currently take around 3 months between first being listed and always being listed. Google is flaky. Something to do with a system they call EVERFLUX

Just make sure you have no hidden text, zero-height or width frames, low contrast text(compared to background), text over images, etc. and you should be ok. Just don't expect stability in Google's listings immediately.

Nelson

8:48 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hey, Thanks Steveb and Kaled!

Makes me understand that it all takes time.

Just call me "nervous newbie"

Thx

Stefan

9:56 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My sympathies to everyone who launched sites after early March... you really got in at the worst possible time. Back last year, if you had backlinks you'd be in the index in under 2 months pretty consistently, and sometimes depending on timing, in just a few weeks. Now... who knows? It's going to happen eventually anyway, so courage and patience. (And think of how much better your sites will be when they finally show up).