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Authority site wants to list me alot

But I'm concerned about duplicate content

         

Powdork

4:21 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have a site for a brick and mortar that sells retail widgets. Part of the site is a section about the different ways we produce the widgets. Widget.com contacted me to say they were proud of our widget making techniques and wanted to use them. I blushed and said ok. Now there are pages with body content identical to ours on widget.com. The pages themselves aren't identical as theirs is surrounded by banner advertising (Even a flashing one, Arrgh!). I'm happy with the way things are as they clearly state that it is from us complete with link and all. I am concerned about the duplicate content issue. We get alot of search engine traffic from the techniques pages. I imagine we get very little actual business from them, however. Any ideas?

wackmaster

4:28 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)



Was your content first? Presumably so, if the other site credits your site on their site.

I believe Google tags content with date, and after that, duped content on other sites is recognized (somehow) and discounted (in some way).

Don't think you are at risk.

This is based on both what I've read in WW, and experience we've had on both sides of the content fence. For what it's worth.

Mike12345

4:28 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I always thought if you werent reciprocating you couldnt be punished for it. I mean you cant stop them from linking TO you. Apart from block the referrer.

Following that theory, it is them who will be penalised, and that page removed from the index. So no detrimental effects to you :)

If you leave it as it is you should be OK get traffic from them and no penalty, of course i could be totally wrong, but it seems logical. :)

chiyo

4:30 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well i think most advice here is that if you were the first to be detected with duplicate text you are OK.

Practically what we do is allow people who ask to copy our content is to allow them to copy up to 10% or max 200 words whatever is smallest, with a link back to the page they took it from with a few other conditions.. e.g. they cant have the same "title" as our page. They must acknoeldge the source. We conourage them to "review" the whole content rather than just plonk it on a page.

To us this seems sensible for both users and google. There is really absolutely no reason to have the same content repeated more than once on any page on the web, but quoting some as a reference to the original should not be enough to either waste browsers time of upset the Google deity.

I think there will be various opinions on your question PD, but im a conservative type and thats what we do. Why give them everything anyway? They just want the rich keyword stuff i guess, and having read the whole article on their site, why go to yours?

conor

4:34 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Should be fine. Think of Amazon! they have not been penalised for affiliates duping content pages, why should you be.

Powdork

4:59 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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To us this seems sensible for both users and google. There is really absolutely no reason to have the same content repeated more than once on any page on the web, but quoting some as a reference to the original should not be enough to either waste browsers time of upset the Google deity.

This is just what I'm worried about. Also, Google probably doesn't want to give me credit for a link from my page as well as from their page back to my homepage, which makes sense. Additionally, many of the recipes were added to our site and their site since the last crawl, so i doubt if Google would be able to tell which is first.
Some other questions.
1. If Google decided it was duplicate content, would my pages be completely gone from the index? Or would the pages be treated as they had a noindex, follow tag in the head? i.e. Would the links on the page count?
2. If there were 8 pages out of 20 removed for duplicate content, would it affect the rest of the site?
3. I am also curious as to whether their pages would be better off being the ones indexed? Except for the flashing banner (arghh!), the site is a good match and the links should help at least as much as the ones I would lose from my own pages.
4. Can't google just stop indexing pages with flashing banners?;)