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Several of my other domains have done similar confusing things and I donīt have any clue.
2 new sites, which got deepcrawled like 3 weeks ago, are not showing up in the serps and have no PR, therefore I think the real update hasnīt happened yet.
What is your suggestion, have a holiday and come back in a week?
Or- toolbar issue. Clear cache, close broswer, open and refresh many times. See if it sticks.
If you're unhappy about it- send it to me. I'll take good care of your extra PR. :)
Not unhappy - just surprised :)
As i didnt do anything the last month in terms of getting extra links/content, i sit on my backside get less backlinks and go up in PR - sounds good, maybe i should do the same for next month hehe
Anyone have any ideas on where this data is ending up? Seems little point in google collecting it if it's not actually being used.
Thanks for the kind words.
In any event, aren't we all in the same boat? I mean, if anchortext no longer carries any weight (and I don't think it could qualify as even a semi-penalty as it's outside the webmasters control) it's the same for everyone.
Sites that have been well-optimised will still perform well. At the moment, we know from GG that the spam filters have not been fully implemented yet, so the spammers currently are in the lead. That was not the case last month. When that finishes (and it will) I suspect the SERPS will return to something not so radically different to last month.
Has anyone ever heard about this before?
I have never heard of google actually banning inbound links, but I think it could be starting to happen as they get stricter about reciprocal linking.
va / dc / ab / zu / cw - do not match -sj or -fi. They kind of look like how -sj looked a week or so back.
So - is it a good assumption that -sj contains an index with some of the filters/links etc rolled back in and the other index's do not - but should convert over to -sj at some future point? ie SJ is ahead of the curve vs the other datacenters? If this is not the case then -sj is not being used because the data in the datacenters does not match sj
have a holiday and come back in a week?
Yeah, I think that's the order of the day. Google is currently showing us that relevance is not important, for the near term anyway. Do a search on MSN. Google may come back eventually, but for now, there are probably better searches you can do on better search engines. It may take the public a while to realize the problems though.
we, who admittedly are not advanced understanders of Google, have been saying for days that -sj and -fi have not been circulating in www while we see many posts from other people insisting these indices are propagating to the other ones.
we don't see anything is propagating anywhere. these all appear to separate indexes, including www., and staying separate and changing within themselves, including www., or not.
and to take exception to one of you observations. we haven't seen any changes in -sj SERP results, since we started looking at it weeks ago now. at least where we are looking.
We believe Google is taking different sets of data for the most part, and applying new things to each of them, including www., and observing the differences themselves an presuming when they are happy with the results on the data in one step, than moving on to the next step of the step process GG has outlined.
Is there a tool that can show you're google rank on each of the servers at once?
If you mean page rank then you can do that with a program called "ABC PR".
I can't remember the site I downloaded it from but it was that one mentioned in a thread a few days ago which contains info all about google (including links back to threads on here).
I could only imagine there are people at Google looking at and comparing the various data sets just like the posters at the forum...
the only difference, they know what they are looking for and we don't. which makes it more fun for us. haha
Old Index - cx / in (probably soon to switch)
sj - This changed a few days back
fi - has been fairly steady
Other Index (looks like sj did a week or so ago) - va dc zu cw
abcdef - sj definately changed end of last week - at least for the keywords I look at.
Not sure why people are saying sj is copying over to the other datacenters - it isn't. Maybe a version of sj is, but the 4 datacenters so far that have been "assimilated" are not even a close match to sj or fi
we could indeed be missing changes within each index. there is only so often we can peek at them.
but you also reinforce our idea that different indices are not propagating anywhere.
as Marcia the moderator mentioned a few hundred posts back. for the most part, stick with www. as THE observation tower and you probably can't go to far off in the end.
the others.. probably very helpful to the Google team implementing this change, and a curiosity to the rest of us.
Clean up your act, then send a mail to google with reinclusionrequest in the subject
That's odd that you would say that. Most of us haven't done anything wrong. The spam sites are at the top and don't require emails to Google. Take a look around before you make accusations.
Does anyone know where I can get the english version of this program?
but we have changed our view as time went on. they were in the testing, offline, stage way before this.
this is not a test. this implementation over time and as they are ready to move forward from step a to step b, etc.
there probably are good reasons these various databases are online, and i don't recall how the DNS for all of these other indexes became known to the forum in the first place..... who did supply them or have they been around for awhile?
GG's answer is pretty straightforward: If you don't like what you are seeing on them, than don't look at them. Nobody at Google asked you to. Is the read that I get. However if you want to look at them, he is happy to review posts for interesting observations and help out when he, is also the read that I get.