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Are inbound links from pages<pr4 worth pursuing?

Does the Google algorithm consider them?

         

pseudoengineer

10:39 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is for a commercial site with pr5, and I recently checked the pagerank of all inbound links that were returned by the link command and found that none has pr less than 4. Does Google not index links from pages with pr<4? Do they not consider them in pagerank calculations or their ranking algorithm?

BTW, my existing inbound links contribute insignificant traffic. Regrettably, I view their worth only as a potential source of pagerank.

robertito62

10:49 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> Does Google not index links from pages with pr<4?

They just not show. They are indexed.

> I view their worth only as a potential source of pagerank.

traffic patterns change in time. Some links may be dry today and an oasis tomorrow.

hetzeld

5:39 am on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi pseudoengineer,

Even a link from a page with PR1 contributes in raising your PR, even if it is only by a small fraction.
All pages are used in PR computation, but Google doesn't report the pages having PR<4 in the link: search.

The mileage could vary as I've seen PR3 pages reported in a link: search, but it's more like an exception.

Dan

mil2k

5:59 am on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes even a link from PR1 is calculated. Regarding traffic agree with robertito62.

Chuma

6:07 am on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You should note that Google only shows inbound links with a PR greater than 4.

To see all the links to a site go to alltheweb and enter the following: link.all:domainname -site:domainname

I used it to find the links to my company's website which doesn't show any backlinks in Google.

Thanks.

Powdork

6:19 am on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes they are worth pursuing.
They are easier to get.
They may not always be pr 3.
Your competitors harvesting your backlinks likely won't find them.

Yes the algorithm considers them. And their anchor text.
Heres a sample of many threads we often see.

I searched for widgets and this site was #1. I couldn't find widgets anywhere on the page. I checked the cache, which matched the page. Google says the terms were only found in links pointing at the page. I checked the backlinks and couldn't find the terms anywhere. Whats up?

Thats the magic of the pr 3 link:)

mil2k

7:06 am on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Very well said Powdork!

robertito62

12:42 pm on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Powdork,

...learning something new everyday. Thanks.

trillianjedi

1:05 pm on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thats the magic of the pr 3 link:)

Except, as I understand it, alltheweb rather scuppers that now?

TJ

takagi

1:30 pm on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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... alltheweb rather scuppers that now?

AllTheWeb can only show the links found by their bots. The number of pages indexed by ATW is smaller than the number of pages indexed by Google. So Google might have some links not displayed by ATW, but it is also possible that ATW knows of a few links on pages unknown to Google.

Finally it is even possible that a link has already been found, but not yet processed. As you might know, the way to detect the Google update is by checking the backward links for Yahoo (well at least that used to be the way, but update Dominic is different story). The link-database is rebuilt roughly once a month with the Google update in order to recalculate the PageRank for all the pages.

Bradley

1:36 pm on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Link to them if it makes business sense and provides value to your website visitors.

MurphyDog

1:42 pm on May 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have been getting almost 10% of my traffic from a site that has a PR1 in the past couple weeks. It is new, so maybe it will increase its PR soon, but still.

A site that has a PR4 is a somewhat popular site and you could be optimistic and assume it is on its way up. Folks will find it, link to it and increase its page rank.

I guess thinking that way is sort of like a pyramid scheme. If you get a link from them, all the links they get from other people benefit you!