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Both are bad.
Grey bar does not necessarily mean that you are banned, it just means that you are not in the index. PR0 does not necessarily mean that you have a penalty, but if you have several good incoming links and you are still PR0, then it probably is a penalty.
Then you'd get shuffled out, as Freshbot results were shuffled out, hence the grey bar. Getting a couple of pr 4+ backlinks should stop that kind of behavior.
I have yet to see a definitive answer to this as there have been so many varying results for different sites.
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Grey Bar > not yet ranked > or banned, or a hic-up (server down-time etc)
A grey bar does not always mean not indexed, there are many grey-bar pages appear on the serps.
The page may have been indexed but not yet assigned a PR figure.
Could this be a penalty of some kind? It is showing up pretty well in serps, but has no PR......It just seems strange to me that there wouldn't be "guesstimate" PR.
1. Possible penalty.
As mentioned above, if you have quality inbound links and the site has been indexed, then a penalty is most likely the cause.
2. No inbound links. Or, poor quality inbound links (PR2 and below).
1. Not indexed yet.
As mentioned above, new sites may start off with a gray bar since they have not been fully indexed. I usually give it one to two major updates before you'll see established PR.
2. Site unaccessible.
If your site was down during a major crawl and you had PR prior to the crawl, that means Google was not able to determine PR and hence the gray bar. I should note that it is possible you will still maintain positions with a gray bar. I've experienced this with a client site that is not hosted on our server and they went down due to domain expiring.
3. Manual penalty.
My understanding is that there are times when Google may institute a manual penalty (by hand). If this happens, you are most likely doomed. I have no real world experience on this one myself, but I've seen it happen to others.
I re-arranged the structure and skipped my first index.htm page and instead moved people to my main.php directly, thus, www.url.com now points to main.php instead of index.htm as before.
main.php is now greyed, but www.url.com is PR5. (The same content).
1) Gray Bar
If NOT BANNED: no backlink found and probably new sites
If BANNED: Backlink found, but none of the pages indexed. In short whenever you encounter gray bar site, try "Backward links"
2) White Bar
If NOT BANNED: if allinurl:www.domains.com return pages that have been indexed by Google. Simply this happens to pages that have not gained enough links.
If BANNED: if allinurl:www.domains.com return NONE of the pages
The reason you were getting the flux between white and grey is because you were getting found by Freshbot and included in the index. That would give you a white bar.
I don't think that this is true, drewls. The only time I have ever seen a PR change on a page is when the indexing happens once a month. Freshbot can get you listed, but won't give you any PR (even a 0).
That's just from my own experience anyway :) I've never been on a 0 though, so couldn't say whether things are different then!
If there is a penalty I have no idea what for but I dont see why we would still be placing so high in keywords. Please let me know if you guys think there was a penalty or if I just need to wait to get some PR and links to show.
All the web shows a bunch of links for link:www.domain.com also!
Hoping someone can help.
I showed up with a grey bar on my mainpage about a week ago. I still have about 20 backlinks showing for the page though.
There are 3 or 4 pages on the site with a grey bar. I'm not sure if it is a penalty or not. The only reason that it COULD have been is due to interlinking because it is a "website design" site with portfolio. All of my client's pages had a link back to mine. I had thought this was okay from what I had read, but apparently not. I fixed this (since it is the only "borderline" tactic used)
How do I try to get reincluded if this is indeed a penalty?