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Why does google get so much praise and other search engines like MSN seem to get a lot of flak. Don't get me wrong, google is an excellent SE.
Why don't people have the same praise for other companies that dominate their field, e.g. Microsoft. In my experience, MS is seen as control freaks. Do people have a lot of praise for google because their jobs depends on providing their clients with high ranking.
What would happen to webmasters if google didn't exist any more. I just feel that google holds so much power on the net.
"What would happen to webmasters if google didn't exist any more. I just feel that google holds so much power on the net."
Thats a good question. Google does hold the torch at the moment, just like AV, Yahoo, and vairous others. The bottom line is that there will be a better engine in the future and google will be come outdated and a vauge memory. But for now it is unfortunatly the hottest item on the net. So that is why we have to play the game. Go where the action is.
Another post says "As a MAC user, I don't understand why anyone would even go to the M$ site let alone search on it." I'm not sure why anyone who uses the infamous "M$" would bother writing anything about MS since using the dollar sign already says how they feel about the company. I'm not advocating MS for sure but why bother wearing your heart on your sleeve like that if you want to make a comment about the company which anyone who doesn't feel the same way about would read?
As to whether Google has more room to move upwards, I think we're seeing a search engine whose growth curve is flattening out. There just isn't that much room to grow. They've already gotten the lion's share of search traffic. After all, the natural limitation for traffic is 100% of search traffic! The general rule is that even if you have a superior product, getting the last few percentage points of market share is the most costly part of the process.
So, I propose that Google is reaching its natural growth limitation. What happens from here is the real story. World economic history is full of rises and falls. Companies / products come onto the scene, rise and fall but the great ones, worth historic note, are those whose product is extended and evolves into more and greater things. Kodak created a box that could take pictures which turned the world on its ear. That product bears little resemblence to either the photographic market or the company Kodak today. Does Yahoo! closely resemble the company they were 5 years ago?
That's a praise. ;)
>As a MAC user, I don't understand why anyone would even go to the M$ site let alone search on it.
Me neither. ;)
BTW: MSN is not a traditional real search engine. They don't show people what they search for but what they should search for in Bill's eyes. (He still has eyes, or!?)
Interesting thread here. Post begins with why everyone here is writing about Google. The answer might be that this is a Google forum.
Hahah! LOL.
Why do I care so much about Google?
Clients.
Google brings me clients. Simple enough.
Why don't people have the same praise for other companies that dominate their field, e.g. Microsoft.
Google is a whole different concept. Not just the company, but why people like it. Besides just tweaking sites and seeing them rise in the serps, which can be quite satisfying, a certain GoogleGuy comes here and gives us advice and listens! The goal being to build a better product. Personally, I appreciate this fact.
post 100! what a rookie I still am.
Damn right... after all what would everybody think if Google woulld simple freeze and not change for two years... everybody would say it'S dead despite it doing the same thing...
No growth is death, and how to keep on growing when you're at the top is a trick only few have mastered so far...
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So what? It's not a integral part of the mac os - like most of the ms software products are embedded deeply into the winos. Pe. safari is a direct competition to the mac verson of explorer. The "move" campaign says it all. The strategy has changed. Apple goes back to more direct competition ... however, that's to off topic. ;)
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IMHO
I will real interesting to see how many Yahoo users who have come to expect the results they get from a search switch when they start getting pummeled with the inkspam serps.
If Yahoo does switch, they really need to look at tightening up the Ink algo.
This is critical for many Mac users. If in their job they need to take home Office spreadsheets and such because their company uses Windows PCs, if it wasn't for the Apple version of office they'd need to get a PC.
As for people searching on msn.com, there seems to be quite a lot. I get a lot of traffic from msn.com. #3 behind Google and Yahoo. Do well on msn.com and this can translate into a lot of traffic.
mid 50's- and up ...
Interesting point. M$ understood from the beginning the power of an idea of "everything's easy" (in fact it was not), but many people not only that age believed the message.
The pre-installation thing: WinOS dominates now, mainly. The pre-configuration thing - look here for an example:
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At the other side Google. Convincing by serving good search results. But somebody has to tell those preconfigured people that Google exists, and they have to type in G's adress ...
Imagine what happens if more and more users just take it easy and use the pre-installed stuff.
This is not about good guys and bad guys. It's about convenience, and what can be made by serving people convenience.
when they start getting pummeled with the inkspam serps
If Yahoo does switch, they really need to look at tightening up the Ink algo.
I am sure this is precisely why they didn't immediately drop google after they acquired inktomi.
But it stands to reason that they will, otherwise why in the world would they have purchased them? To put one of Google competitors out of business?