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I built a site for about a year before finding webmasterworld.com, and I had a slick-looking Flash index page hardly readable to search engines with virtually no decent HTML content at all. Somehow, I started out with a PR6, and just recently I'm finding out what a bonus that really is. However that Flash intro did probably help me to get the DMOZ Cool Site award for my category, which in turn is perhaps why I got the PR6. Also, I innocently made a site that had a strong concept and branded domain name, not a keyword name, and now I find that I stick out nicely from the crowd, the content comes naturally to me, and I have a dynamic site governed by a dynamic idea, not a keyword. Just keep adding quality content, request links from other relevant sites with your keyword in the link, and have internal links on your own pages. This'll get you PR8 if you hang in there long enough, - although I'm not talking from experience yet ;)
all the best,
Jeremy
What do you miracle workers do to get a PR6?
You have to consider whether the category you are in is ever likely to get you to PR6, or indeed whether in that category you even need a PR6.
In other words if most competitors for "small oval widgets" have PR of 4 or less, and you have 5, then that should be all you need to get decent positioning against yout key words.
For example I come up position 5 on Google with a PR6 site, a one word keyword and 1.6 million pages found for that word.
There is little point in me aspiring to PR7 with that site!
I got my two present PR6 pages without actually doing anything for that purpose. They are the results of a decent number of inbound links with decent PR and an internal linking structure that places a rather large part of my PR potential on these two pages. Do you have a page, that would be natural to link to from many of your pages? And if not: Could you create one?
I have 7 domains with PR5. I have one domain i labor over for hours trying to make it a PR6. It has about 120 backlinks, no spam tactics, and solid content. What do you miracle workers do to get a PR6?
A question I've been pondering my self, but it's pretty clear, reading around this forum.
Google put a higher weighting on HUMAN EDITED DIRECTORIES.
It knows that to get in that site, a human has to check you out and it knows that yahoo, dmoz are fussy.
That harder the directory/site is to get into, the higher rank you get.
So simple: get into as many human directories as possible.
Note the word HUMAN. ALso get into as many global/golden sites as possible.
You can get a list of "golden sites" by link:www.***.com
It doesn't matter how you get in these.
For example, humans write blogger's.
It's no coincidence that google have got blogger. They can track how human links interact as well as get some adwords infront of us. Personally, If I saw adverts on a blogger site, I'd clear off. I don't want advertising when I'm reading personal sites. Google know this adwords thing is a nice cover for getting more data on blogger links and human interactions.
So get into a lot of blogger.com sites.
Of course, google under estimate how devious humans are in order to get a high page rank.
What humans might actually write fake commentry to get links from golden sites.
Those PHD's aren't that clever. google gave humans supreme rights before (google bomb) now they are trying to
do the same, but write filters to detect people faking it.
They can't do it yet.
Just before google bombs were known, google was very good very useful.
If you notice now, it's pretty much pants. alltheweb and teoma often produce better and more accurate results.
Their also is too complicated, the simplicity and honesty of people linking before made sense.
Now it doesn't. We know getting loads of links and good content get's you up there. if everyone is doing that what the next level of filtering?
Human "references" to your site. clearly.
How do you write a filter that finds human references to your site? When buy blogger for starters.
But those PHDS haven't realised one thing.
HUMANS LIE.
DON'T SELL YOUR WIFE, JUST LIE A LOT.
I also have a feeling that google are monitoring this site, to find what SEO's are thinking to write better filters.
so, for all the guys at google "Hello! "
Other way: write good content, and be patient.
I've seen this kind of advice bandied about everywhere along with 1 year plans.
Most poeple here are SEO in some way, they are already doing or done that or know about it, so it's totally useless advice.
Is does not explain all the low PR sites, with virtually no content, and low in bound links that are getting high ranks.
It works for me and a lot of other people.
It's a problem I have with customers, sometimes they want a quick fix. Good content takes effort, patience can be very difficult for some people.
There are people who do very well with quick fixed, but often it's not for long at a time. People here who've been in competitive fields for some time will have seen such sites come and go.
Other way: write good content, and be patient....
.... so it's totally useless advice.
Not so, its the only real plan worth following for a web site. Sure you have to optimise, sure you can pick up tips here, but in the end algorithms change, sites come and go, but if you have good content and keep up with changes, you will get good results.
There is no quick fix, and if there was you would not find those who have found the holy grail sharing the knowledge ;)
There is no quick fix, and if there was you would not find those who have found the holy grail sharing the knowledge ;)
Yes, because that's how humans are: selfish?
Or if everyone knew, google would filter it out?
Like I said, I'm assuming people have very basic common sense. So they *already know* about creating content and waiting 12 months. I've written this loads of times now, I
can't see why you don't actually read what I'm saying.
I'm assuming people have common sense and are already working to the "obvious" 12 month plan.
So now that we are all doing that, what else can we do?
As far as I can see I've exlained it in my earlier post in this thread. You don't need to sell your wife, or your soul to the devil.
YOU JUST HAVE TO LIE A LOT.
Googles algo no matter how clever it is or will be, CAN'T SPOT LIES.
ONLY HUMANS CAN.
The keyword I'm targetting really needs a PR6. There are around 30 sites ahead of me with a PR6 for the search. I'm good at writing solid content, I got a lot of good practice back in the infoseek days. I didn't have to do much to get the PR5's , but this PR6 seems untouchable no matter how hard I work at it. My backlinks are mostly PR4 and PR5.
my first test sorry
never mind i figured it out lol
This is *trivial* if you know the angles. I won't mention some of them, but the one I will mention is one that is obvious to all around here with half a clue: get a link from a PR7 page with few outbound links. If I actually thought it was important, I could easily get my sites to PR6 from the current PR5. Instead I just have worked on doing very well with a PR5. Unless you are targeting some really competetive SERPs, PR5 should be adequate. And, if you run a commercial site and need a PR6, I'd say buy the links needed to get it.