Absolutely Faultless Results

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signs that cloaking does work....very well.

subway

10:53 pm on Nov 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have come accross a site that without fail, and I mean without fail is number 1 (not 2,3,4,5) for absolutely every single keyword in its field. Looking at the site there is no reason in the world that it should maintain the position over 20 big keywords in absolutely all major engines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this has to be cloaking at its very best.

jatar_k

10:58 pm on Nov 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't jump straight to cloaking. I think you just need to look at it more in depth or from a different perspective.

There's a reason, but can you find it and immitate it? ;)

subway

11:20 am on Nov 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yeah, there's a reason. How do I imitate it? I suppose just call them up and ask what cloaking software they use.!:)

Dante_Maure

1:19 pm on Nov 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

They're not cloaking at all.

Visit the site, and then look at the cached pages in Google and you'll find the same thing.

All of the keyword combinations are present in abundance on their homepage.

They achieved their rankings through strong on and off page optimisation with a network of interlinked sites.

subway

1:22 pm on Nov 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ok, what do you mean by "off page" - as in link backward links, etc.

subway

1:44 pm on Nov 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ok, maybe if the Googlebot comes along, it shows it the proper site, but all these others? Sorry I'm not convinced it boils down to an abundance of keywords on the index page...

Dante_Maure

3:27 pm on Nov 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ok, what do you mean by "off page" - as in link backward links, etc.

PageRank
Anchor text in inbound links
Text immediately surrounding the links pointing to the page
Titles of the pages that have links pointing to the page
Keyword relevance of the page linking to the page
Etc.

Ok, maybe if the Googlebot comes along, it shows it the proper site, but all these others?

Others? You mean other engines?

First of all, the keywords that are being targeted are only moderately competitive... and they're not ranking nearly as well in Google as your initial post suggested. For a number of their keyphrases they're not even on page 1 of the listings.

As for the other engines... some consider them a cakewalk compared to the big G.

Sorry I'm not convinced it boils down to an abundance of keywords on the index page...

No, it comes down to that, and the dozens of other variables that are figured into the SE's ranking algorhythms (including the above mentioned cross linked network of a dozen on theme sites which support that abundance of keywords on the index page)

jatar_k had the right idea with this comment: