Cloaked pages

Submit them via paid inclusion?

[charliek]

Hi,

I am new to the whole area of cloaking and was wondering what the general consensus is - do most people use the paid programs on AltaVista and Inktomi to submit cloaked pages? I have heard that Ink generally will not take action over cloaked pages unless they do not point to relevant content. Also with AV, can you only submit cloaked pages via the Trusted Feed program? And do you submit cloaked pages to Google and FAST?

Hope someone out there can give me a brief reply to some of these questions!

Thanks!

[Brett_Tabke]

Generally, there is no problem, but you might try just blocking the pages from other search engines via a robots.txt.

[johnser]

Hi Charlie
I've done the PFI for 7 cloaked urls on AV and its been a waste of time. Maybe its just me but the urls are doing well everywhere else but not on AV. Ink & Fast are cool with it
John

[Air]

John, are you saying that had you not cloaked, the pages might have done well on AV? or are you saying that AV PFI in general is a waste of time?

[johnser]

I did draft a long reply to this Air last week but then the !%"*ing pc died on me... excuses.

Just as well as basically I was going to say that I think it was a combination of the 2. Since last week however on both AV.com & .co.uk, my urls are everywhere. First appearance anywhere since May & I'm no 1 in a few competitive categories - They weren't there when I posted previously above. Weird....Change of Algo? Core db update?

Planet Ocean did say a few months ago in their newsletter that "they had been getting bad reports about the av pfi and wouldn't recommend it". Based on my experiences now, I'll be continuing to pay for the inclusion of cloaked urls.

I'd be very interested to know however if anyone has had a similar experience as with Ink whereby if you already have 5 urls in their database and pay for a 6th to be spidered regularly, the 5 freebies you did have included are dropped. (These wouldn't necessarily be cloaked urls) Anyone know if something similar happens at AV?

An AV exec said a few weeks ago that with over 100 factors in their algo, "it was impossible to spam them". Based on what I've done (& I haven't spammed them), thats not true. While I haven't seen any egs of spam, I haven't looked very hard for it.

I'm guessing it wouldn't be very hard to do. I now like AV :) - a lot!
J