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Could you explain Cloaking technique more Please

         

mai

8:59 am on Mar 8, 2001 (gmt 0)



Hi Air,
I don't have technical knowledge. So I could not understand Decloaking Hanzad.
Could you explain more, and show the example how I can do.
"Translate" link carries AltaVista IP Address. " How can I do?"
Will spider using non stock User Agent. " How can I do? "
Will use IP Addresses from EXODUS for spidering at times. "How can I do? What does EXODUS mean?"
Tends to introduce new IP Addresses at major crawl times.
****If you can please use easy word explain to me- My English not strong

Brett_Tabke

2:11 am on Mar 9, 2001 (gmt 0)

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What Air was referring to was the Babel fish translater at Altavista. The translater uses an IP from Altavista .com. Thus, if someone views your page from the Translator, your cloaking script needs to be able to detect that it is the translator and not a an altavista spider.

Air

4:14 am on Mar 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Let's see...

>Will spider using non stock User Agent. " How can I do? "
This means that the spider doesn't always use the name you would expect, like Scooter or Slurp, but instead, maybe it will use a name like Mozilla, or libwww-perl/5.48. This can make it harder to decide if it is a spider, or from which search engine it comes from.

>Will use IP Addresses from E X O D U S for spidering at times.
>"How can I do? What does E X O D U S mean?"
E X O D U S is a company that offers network outsourcing, some search engines use the network from E X O D U S to run their spiders at times. It makes it harder to dtermine if they are real spiders because the IP address is not from a familiar group of addresses, it comes from the range of addresses owned by EXODUS, and when the address is looked up, it does not show that it belongs to AltaVista, or Excite, instead it shows E X O D U S.

bobriggs

11:35 pm on Mar 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Hi. First timer here.

All of the exodus.net stuff can be found by using telnet to port 4321 on rwhois.exodus.net. Here is a sample (telnet) session for 216.34.109.92 which entered my site.

%rwhois V-1.5:003fff:00 rwhois.exodus.net (by Network Solutions, Inc. V-1.5.
3)
216.34.109.192
network:Auth-Area:216.34.0.0/16
network:Class-Name:network
network:Network-Name:216.34.109.0
network:IP-Network:216.34.109.0/24
network:Organization;I:Northern Light
network:Address-1;I:222 Third St. Suite 1320
network:Address-2;I:Cambridge , MA 02142
network:Created:99-AUG-11
network:Updated-By:saulin

%ok

I typed the ip above. I've also seen inktomi and av? (I think) using exodus.net.

HTH.

startup

1:01 am on Mar 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

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bobriggs,
I would like you to walk me through the correct procedure(syntax), to open up a telnet communication with Exodus, port 4321 on rwhois.exodus.net, for an IP address.

Air

1:38 am on Mar 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld bobriggs.

There's a couple of those rwhois utilities around, for those interested, here's one if command line is not your thing:

[rwhois.net...]

BoneHeadicus

1:53 am on Mar 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Sam Spade [samspade.org] has built in rwhois to Exodus and Digex. Simply put in the IP and select rwhois.exodus.net from the drop down list and hit whois. It works from your local machine.

Very handy tool to keep in your toolbox.

startup

2:39 am on Mar 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

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More toys, those two hit the spot.

bobriggs

9:18 am on Mar 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Hey I like those. Took me a while to figure the interface on:
[rwhois.net...]
- Query is IP and host is rwhois.exodus.net.

Since you asked, startup, I'm using TeraTerm Pro to telnet and do other raw stuff, mainly for its secure shell (for Unix shell accounts). You can connect to any host on any port, SMTP, POP, HTTP, FTP, etc. (that will allow it of course).

One link to it is:
[zip.com.au...]

It's a Win9x or NT program, just type in the host: ie rwhois.exodus.net, and the port (4321) and connect. It will remember your connections. After connecting just type the ip and you get the raw output.

HTH.